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Crimean War - Kings Royal Hussars - HELP!
« on: Wednesday 09 February 11 20:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I don't know if this is a total long shot, but can anyone help? I've been given two names of soldiers who served with the KRH in the crimean war, I have been asked to try and find out about the history behind them, but they have so very little info for me to work with.

This is what I have:

Pte H Heathcock - 11th Hussars

He was awarded a clasp on the 11th November 1856 for the siege of Sebastopol between 1st Oct 1854 - 9 Sept 1855, he received the medal for the Crimean War (date unknown) along with clasps for the "Battle of Balaclava" and "Alma"

Farrier J Barber

On serving with the 11th Hussars, he was awarded a medal for the Crimean war along with a Clasp on the 20th Sept 1854. He was also awarded a clasp for the siege of Sebastopol between 1st Oct 1854 - 9 Sept 1855.

On the 25th Oct he received a clasp "Battle of Balaclava"

This is all I have and have no idea where to look next, any help or direction would be so very much appreciated.

Many thanks!




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Re: Crimean War - Kings Royal Hussars - HELP!
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 February 11 22:13 GMT (UK) »
Kings Royal(Prince Albert's Own) Hussars if your reference to the 11th is correct.
The regiment were home in England for the 1851 census, so you should find them on there somewhere. Cross-refer with some other soldier's names (the more unusual ones) from the regiment and you should be able to find them.

That's where I'd start. Should be fairly simple...famous last words!  ;D
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Re: Crimean War - Kings Royal Hussars - HELP!
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 February 11 22:25 GMT (UK) »
Yes sorry KRH is today's regiment! But yes you're correct!

I'm working my way through the Census now! Think I've worked one of them out, now too find more indepth info - any advice on where I can out more of their military history/records, etc., as I have to this for about 40 different people!!

Many thanks!

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Re: Crimean War - Kings Royal Hussars - HELP!
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 February 11 22:44 GMT (UK) »
They were centred on Norwich for the 1851 census. Some officers are coming up in Cambridgeshire.

= Inigo Jones
= Edmund Peel
= John Pilgrim
= Thomas Y Dallas
= James Thomas Wightman
= William Cresswell
= Arthur Brisco
= William Ennis
= Eyre Coote
= Joseph Hely
= Richard Pyper
= John Gilleland

These are from the 1850 Army List.

Ken


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Re: Crimean War - Kings Royal Hussars - HELP!
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 February 11 22:58 GMT (UK) »
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I'm working my way through the Census now! Think I've worked one of them out, now too find more indepth info - any advice on where I can out more of their military history/records, etc., as I have to this for about 40 different people!!

If you can find them on that census, with help from Ken and others, then that should give you ages/birthplaces etc.
Armed with that info, then you can look at WO97 pension records etc
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/chelsea-pensioners-service-records-collection-search-start.action
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Re: Crimean War - Kings Royal Hussars - HELP!
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 February 11 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much! I've managed to find out quite a bit about one of them (J Barber) through the various census, etc., and now have his full name James Clement Barber, it seems he remained in the military throughout his life right up till his death in 1912!!

I went to access the WO97 pension records but I can't afford the 6 month membership and the pay per view options are not going to be viable with the amount of soldiers I have to do this for as I am doing this to help out and am not getting paid in any way or form! Very sad it's the only way to access them, would have helped if findmypast did a monthly membership like my ancestry one!
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Strong - Wiltshire
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Re: Crimean War - Kings Royal Hussars - HELP!
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 12 February 11 09:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi

There is a good deal of info on Barber in Lawrence W. Crider's book In Search of the Light Brigade, which can be read in part on Google Books.

Martin

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Re: Crimean War - Kings Royal Hussars - HELP!
« Reply #7 on: Monday 23 September 13 13:59 BST (UK) »
Extracts for Heacock 11H:

Born in the parish of St. Sidwell's, Exeter.
Died on the 27 of April 1912 and was buried on the 3 of May in St. Marylebone Cemetery, Finchley, London, the 11th Hussars providing a military escort at his funeral.

Was not in the Charge. Medal with Sebastopol clasp only.

Obituary report from the X1 Hussar Regimental Journal of July 1912:-
One of the Crimean veterans present (No. 1933 Private Henry Heacock) at the Old Comrade's Dinner this year was Mr. Henry Heacock who, on account of the misfortune of being blind, had to have an attendant with him. Just a week later (27th of April) he passed from this life at the age of 76 years, (sic). The deceased was born in the parish of St. Sidwell's, Exeter, and enlisted at Exeter on the 26 of December 1854, at the age of 18. He was sent out to the Crimea to join the regiment and served the last nine months of that campaign with the Eleventh. On the return of the regiment to England he was discharged on the 8th of September 1856. The interment of his remains took place on the 3rd of May at St. Marylebone Cemetery, Finchley, the regiment being represented by a bearing-party of six N.C.O's of the Regiment. A gun carriage with a Sergeant and 6 men was provided by "F" Battery of the Royal Horse Artillery from St. John's Wood. The nearest relatives to the deceased attended the funeral as well as an old chum of Heacock's, Mr. William Kirkham, formerly a  Corporal, 7th Dragoon Guards, himself a Crimean War veteran. A wreath "From his old comrades of the X1th Hussars", together with a busby and sword, were placed upon  the  coffin.
St. Catherine's House records show him as dying at Marylebone during the April-June quarter of 1912, aged 73 years.

A medal with four clasps was presented to the Sgt.'s Mess of the 11th Hussars by Colonel the Hon. O.V.C.A. Lumley.

Extracts for Barber 11H:

Born at Croydon, Surrey. Enlisted at London on the 29 of August 1846.

Discharged from Dublin on the 10 of October 1861as "Free, at own request to deferred pension of 6d. per day upon reaching the age of 50 years."

He re-enlisted into the 1st Life Guards at London on the 18 of March 1862.   Regtl. No. 217.

Discharged from Hyde Park Cavalry Barracks on the 17 of March 1874.
"Claimed, on termination of second period of limited engagement and to pension after 24 years service."
Entitled to the Crimean medal with clasps for Alma, Balaclava, Inkerman, Sebastopol. and the Turkish medal.
Is shown on the Regtl. "Married roll" from the 25 of April 1860, his wife's name being Harriet. There were three children in the family up to December of 1869.
Record of death not found yet.

Hope useful

Roy Mills
editor "Lives of the Light Brigade" the EJBA archive.

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Re: Crimean War - Kings Royal Hussars - HELP!
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 September 13 17:25 BST (UK) »
hi all
this is from james clements barber pension record
army no 217 served Bulgaria 4 mos - crimea 1 yr 8 mos has 6 good conduct badges the Crimean war medal with clasps for alma balaclava inkerman and Sebastopol  served out at balaclava 1856
Turkish war medal
served out at brighton 1857
never in defaulters book and never ct martialled in 1st life gds
but on ref to 11th hussars it appears he was tried dcm for desertion may 1849 but no copy of charge findings or sentence found .
has forfeited service and discharged ? [ extremely difficult to decipher exact word ]
22 mar 1856 reenlisted in 1st life gds
total service 26 yrs 24 days
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