Coat of Arms

[behindthefrogs]

Looking at crests (which sit on top of the helmet) there were at least ten different crests used by people with surname Annesley.  I know that there is an extra "s" in the name but it could be relevant.  The indications in the books on crests is that there were at least eleven coats of arms containing these crests but I have no idea what they were.

Having said that you should be aware that around 1900 people were very interested in coats of arms and many people traced one associated with their surname.   Tradesmen at that time often had one of these reproduced in the headings of their invoices and other stationery.

I have the specific case of a saddler in our family who used a coat of arms in this way but we have proved that he was certainly not related to the person to whom the arms belong for at least well over a hundred years. 

[Hanford]

Thank you for looking for me 

That would explain the headed paper my great gran told us about  Looks more likely he has made it himself now! Gutted 

Glad it wasn't only my family that used coat of arms like that 

[Guy Etchells]

There is no need to be gutted.
As long as your great grandfather's arms were not struck down then they were legally used by prescription.
That is one of the oldest (and most legitimate) ways of acquiring an achievement or coat of arms.

There is no reason why he could not have commissioned a shield or even made one himself to display his device, many individuals and families did, that does not in any way detract from the authenticity of the achievement.

It should also be remembered that though many achievements are shown in the various textbooks thousands are not.
Just because an achievement does not appear in a particular book does not mean there is no right to that achievement.
Cheers
Guy

[Hanford]

Thank you Guy 

It would be nice to find out the origin of the coat of arms somehow! 

[Temic]

There is no need to be gutted.
As long as your great grandfather's arms were not struck down then they were legally used by prescription.
That is one of the oldest (and most legitimate) ways of acquiring an achievement or coat of arms.

Guy - could you just clarify "by prescription" for me: what does that in fact mean in this context?? Thanks.

But further to what you've said, I'd also add that of course the records at the College of Arms aren't themselves complete - they physically were unable to visit every single parish in England and Wales during the period of visitations.

[behindthefrogs]

Rachey,

Moving away from academic discussion which this thread has turned into and back to your original question.  Do you have a copy of the coat of arms for which you are searching.

If you can describe them we might be able to help.  Ideally we need a picture or a formal description (called a blazon) but anything would help.

[stanmapstone]

By prescription means the use of a coat of arms for three generations, or at least one hundred years.
http://www.genealogymagazine.com/heuseandabof.html

Stan

[Temic]

Ta very much!

[Hanford]

Rachey,

Moving away from academic discussion which this thread has turned into and back to your original question.  Do you have a copy of the coat of arms for which you are searching.

If you can describe them we might be able to help.  Ideally we need a picture or a formal description (called a blazon) but anything would help.

Afternoon 
I don't have a picture, but I have a rough description of it from what my great gran remembered.... It was green, gold, blue and red, there was a visor or some sort of criss cross type of pattern, and there was a gold lion on one side of it and another animal or bird on the other side.... Does this help at all?