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KEMPSON of Nottingham & Australia
« on: Wednesday 23 February 11 02:55 GMT (UK) »
Looking for the ancesters of Henry Kempson (B.1817 Ruddington, Nottingham)  as well as any info relating to possible remarriage  and any children he may have had after his wife died in 1848.
Henry came to South Australia in 1840. first wife was  Elizabeth Parker. He moved to Victoria about 1852 after his wife died and nobody knows what happened to him or were he ended up.
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Re: Kempson's of Nottingham & Australia
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 February 11 03:09 GMT (UK) »
Not sure which wife you mean whose death preceeded his move to VIC.

This marriage was in VICTORIA

KEMPSON Henry
 To YUILLE Ellen
Year: 1856
Reg 2721


Perhaps this is ELLEN's death

KEMPSON Ellen
Father UNKNOWN
Mother UNKNOWN
Age 22
Birth Place LOND
Year 1864
Reg  5605

 
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Re: Kempson's of Nottingham & Australia
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 February 11 03:35 GMT (UK) »
It could be, according to my notes they married in 1856.
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Re: Kempson's of Nottingham & Australia
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 February 11 03:36 GMT (UK) »
First wife (Catherine) died in 1848 giving birth to twins.
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Re: Kempson's of Nottingham & Australia
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 February 11 04:23 GMT (UK) »
There was a Henry Charles KEMPSON, died in Victoria in 1899 (aged 73/74) whose parents are named as Henry Charles KEMPSON and Sophia BINGLEY.  According to the newspaper he was a civil engineer and surveyor.  FamilySearch has this KEMPSON/BINGLEY marriage taking place in Birmingham, Warwickshire in 1825.  Their son Henry Charles was baptised in 1826 at Birmingham.  The notices for the death of his son and wife confirm that he married Henrietta Shurlock LUCKHAM (Victoria 1854).  Stated "formerly of Birmingham" but it is not clear whether this refers to Henry or his wife.

Is this just a coincidence with names or have you got two Henrys mixed up?  I can't see a marriage to Sophia BINGLEY in Victoria after 1856. 

I can see a Henry KEMPSON baptised 1816 at Leake, Nottingham, son of Thomas and Charlotte - is this the one?  Do you know when/where your Henry died?

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Re: Kempson's of Nottingham & Australia
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 February 11 04:57 GMT (UK) »
I just checked the newspapers for a notice regarding the death of ELLEN in case there had been  a mistake on the death index about her age.

However, the death notice confirms 22 years as her age at death so I wonder if one or other of the index findings is not your ELLEN.

If she had been married to HENRY in 1856, she would have been only 14 at marriage to be 22 in 1864.

Of course very young brides were not uncommon in those days....... :-\

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Re: Kempson's of Nottingham & Australia
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 February 11 05:24 GMT (UK) »
The 1903 electoral roll for Victoria has a Charles Henry (ironmoulder) and Ellen KEMPSON living at 209 Abbottsford Street, Hotham.  No way of knowing what the relationship was though. 

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Re: Kempson's of Nottingham & Australia
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 February 11 05:53 GMT (UK) »
This death of a young man gives us the possible "maiden" name for his mother ELLEN while the father is CHARLES HENRY KEMPSON

Perhaps they are the couple on the Electoral Roll

KEMPSON Clive Norman
Kempson Chas Hy
Mother: Ellen PEELER
Age 20
Place Melb E
Year 1915
Reg.  6074

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Re: KEMPSON of Nottingham & Australia
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 February 11 23:04 GMT (UK) »
As far as I know Henry Kempson snr was born abt 1817, and I do know of Thomas and Charlotte, they had three children
1 boy named Henry (B. abt 1817) and two girls of which only one name is known (Charlotte).
This does seem to be the right family.
Extra info; Thomas Kempson was the local register of births in Ruddington, the family was well known in the area.
Thomas & Charlotte married 03/08/1802
Henry & Catherine married 09/03/1842.
I have info on Henry's two son's Henry and Frederick.
He left S.A. in abt 1852 on board a ship named the William Hill and headed for the goldfields of Castlemaine, thats where we lose him. Apparently there were quiet a few Kempsons in Victoria at the time so trying to find our Henry is proving to be a problem.
Would love to find the ancesters of Thomas and Charlotte as well.
Harmer, Kempson, Kiesler, Oakland, Payne, Crowle, Sutherland, Tulloch, Ward, Benfold, Donovan, Brooks, Smith,