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Re: A metal Rosette on the ribbon bar of my father's P.O uniform jacket.
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 24 February 11 11:22 GMT (UK) »
I am not looking for prestige for my father-I am just looking for accuracy in his service history as depicted in the medals and clasps.
There is a big difference in my mind as between having a medal and having a clasp.I would only be swapping one for another.I cannot have both so I am not looking for an extra medal.I just want the right medal and the right clasp so as to reflect the historical truth,that's all ,
Thank you for your time.
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I wasn't implying that you were looking for prestige for your father. I simply meant this as a general question about the medals.  ;)

But isn't the clasp the equivalent of a medal?
Then why not issue two medals  and no clasps ?
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Re: A metal Rosette on the ribbon bar of my father's P.O uniform jacket.
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 24 February 11 11:27 GMT (UK) »
Phipps,

I respect your right to disagree with the view I expressed.  

I am the custodian of my father's, and my grandfather's medals.  These are NOT my medals, they were NOT awarded to me.  At some time in the future, descendants of my Grandfather and of my Father will be asked to undertake the honourable duty to be the custodian of their medals.



You use "custodian" I use ownership.Your choice, and my choice
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Re: A metal Rosette on the ribbon bar of my father's P.O uniform jacket.
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 24 February 11 11:31 GMT (UK) »
I will let the experts answer accurately as to the reason two medals were not issued rather than one and a clasp, but looking at dates and places of service, might it be because there was some duplication of dates and places?  :)

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Re: A metal Rosette on the ribbon bar of my father's P.O uniform jacket.
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 24 February 11 11:33 GMT (UK) »
I have just spoken to a cousin, aged 96 who served in WWII re HIS medals.   The clasp is respected as though it were a medal.  The reason that a medal and a clasp could be awarded rather than two medals, is simply one of space and weight on his RIBBONS.  

I asked for his view on "ownership" of the medals awarded to him, and if his son would ever "own" them.  

"My will directs my medals to be sent to the Australian War Museum on my death".   


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Re: A metal Rosette on the ribbon bar of my father's P.O uniform jacket.
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 24 February 11 11:35 GMT (UK) »
I will let the experts answer accurately as to the reason two medals were not issued rather than one and a clasp, but looking at dates and places of service, might it be because there was some duplication of dates and places?  :)
Interesting point Ruskie-Thank you
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Re: A metal Rosette on the ribbon bar of my father's P.O uniform jacket.
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 24 February 11 11:36 GMT (UK) »
I have just spoken to a cousin, aged 96 who served in WWII re HIS medals.   The clasp is respected as though it were a medal.  The reason that a medal and a clasp could be awarded rather than two medals, is simply one of space and weight on his RIBBONS.  

I asked for his view on "ownership" of the medals awarded to him, and if his son would ever "own" them.  

"My will directs my medals to be sent to the Australian War Museum on my death".   
That is my intention too-all the more reason for the medals to reflect actuality,not near enough is good enough
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Re: A metal Rosette on the ribbon bar of my father's P.O uniform jacket.
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 24 February 11 11:37 GMT (UK) »
The reason that a medal and a clasp could be awarded rather than two medals, is simply one of space and weight on his RIBBONS.    

I did wonder about that but thought I was looking at it too logically.  ;)

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Re: A metal Rosette on the ribbon bar of my father's P.O uniform jacket.
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 24 February 11 11:40 GMT (UK) »
The reason that a medal and a clasp could be awarded rather than two medals, is simply one of space and weight on his RIBBONS.    

I did wonder about that but thought I was looking at it too logically.  ;)
I wonder whether that explanation is based on official fact or just conjecture ?
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Re: A metal Rosette on the ribbon bar of my father's P.O uniform jacket.
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 24 February 11 11:45 GMT (UK) »
The reason that a medal and a clasp could be awarded rather than two medals, is simply one of space and weight on his RIBBONS.    

I did wonder about that but thought I was looking at it too logically.  ;)
I wonder whether that explanation is based on official fact or just conjecture ?

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