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*COMPLETED* Death & burial in Brighton 1856
« on: Friday 25 February 11 21:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi all

My 3xgreat-grandfathers sister Ann(e) Caroline Sherry was baptised in Paddington London in 1822.

She is at home in the 1841 census and in the Lunatic ward of the Marylebone workhouse in the 1851 census.

That's the last official sighting of her.

She doesn't seem to get married and there aren't any obvious deaths for her in Paddington  or Marylebone.

So I'm moving further afield. There is a death registered in Dec 1856 for Ann Sherry at Brighton but no age is given and no obvious corresponding entry for this lady in the 1851 census at Brighton.

My family does have a link to Brighton in later years. Several deaths are recorded there.

I know you are a resourceful lot and have a knack of finding obscure things. Do you know where this lady is buried?

I don't want to have to spend £9.25 on a death cert that may not be the one I'm after.

Dawn
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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
Chandler-Chelsea

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Re: Death & burial in Brighton 1856
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 February 11 07:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dawn,
Would looking at her records from Marylebone workhouse, namely discharge papers, give you a clue as to if she went to the Brighton area?
Have you checked the wherabouts of her parents (if they survived to this date) & any siblings?
Preaching to the converted I know  ;)  Wish I could help you further  :(

Jane
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Re: Death & burial in Brighton 1856
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 February 11 10:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jane

Thanks for your reply.

I've gone through the microfilms of the surviving records at the LMA but she isn't listed.

Her father died in 1855 and is buried at St Marys Paddington Green.
Her mother died in 1871 and is buried at Paddington Old.
The rest of the family are buried in a couple of plots at Kensal Green.

I might order up the Hanwell Asylum records to see if she was sent there after 1851.

Still doesn't explain the lack of a suitable death entry in the GRO index though.

Dawn
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Sherry-Paddington & Marylebone,
Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
Chandler-Chelsea

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Re: Death & burial in Brighton 1856
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 February 11 15:44 GMT (UK) »
Mmmmm, there doesn't seem an obvious reason why she would have gone to the Brighton area then if her immediate family was still in London  :-\
Why Hanwell?  Have you tried spelling variations on FreeBMD like Ann(e) Cherry or Shery?
Just a thought  :)

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Re: Death & burial in Brighton 1856
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 February 11 18:59 GMT (UK) »
Hanwell was the asylum for St M'Bone Board of Guardians.

No specific reason for being in Brighton unless she was there for the bracing sea air & convalescence. No obvious Ann Sherry in the 1851 census at Brighton. I have other family deaths in Brighton but later years.

Dawn
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Re: Death & burial in Brighton 1856
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 27 February 11 07:40 GMT (UK) »
Other than buying the 1856 Brighton death cert to which you refer, have you tried looking at shipping records?  Around that time parish workhouses were trying ease their annual financial outlay by shipping marriagiable females off to Australia.  Not only was this considered cost effective, they thought a marriage out there would stop those crims that had done their time from returning. 
Another possible line of investigation is one person (surnamed Sherry) on Genes Reunited that has Ann of London in their family tree    Roy G

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Re: Death & burial in Brighton 1856
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 27 February 11 09:03 GMT (UK) »
Good point, Roy  :)
Dawn, I found 4 public member trees on Ancestry & 1 on Tribal pages for Ann Caroline b. 1822, Paddington.  None had a date of death though  :(
Is there any possibility that she DID marry????

Jane
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Re: Death & burial in Brighton 1856
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 February 11 11:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I looked again at the trees on Ancestry and know of the posters and how they fit into my tree by marriage.

The tree on tribal pages is mine.

There used to be a full tree on GR that seems to have been removed, I gave a gedcom to someone and next thing it was all there online.

Whose tree are you now referring to on GR?

I have looked for a marriage. A 29yr old spinster with a history of being in the lunatic ward of the workhouse would not have been a particularly marriagable prospect, I would have thought, likewise for sending abroad. There aren't any marriage entries on freebmd or the London parish registers database on Ancestry.

I'll have a look at passenger lists.

If the death cert was definitely her I wouldn't have any hesitation in buying it, these speculative £9.25's have a habit of getting out of hand.

Dawn
 
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Re: Death & burial in Brighton 1856
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 27 February 11 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Dawn, I was just looking on the Sussex Family History Group's site.  They have quite a lot of burials on their data base covering the various Brighton churchyards & cemeteries.  They have 22 burials in the name of SHERRY.  You can email them...nothing ventured nothing gained......
These are the places covered by the Brighton RD.  I was thinking of the LDS but it would be quite a task going through that lot as I'm sure many of them have more than one church!

Brighton Central; Brighton General Hospital; Brighton Outer; Brighton West; East Brighton; Kemptown; Palace; Pavilion; St. Peter; West Brighton

Everything here is fine.  The 'winds of change' are certainly blowing through the region, about time!

Jane
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