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Re: Craven Family Manchester
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 03 March 11 11:11 GMT (UK) »
Another image of the Craven company Manchester.
http://images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=63037
Lets hope this one doesn't go A.W.O.L. ;D


Migky  ;)

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Re: Craven Family Manchester
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 03 March 11 14:58 GMT (UK) »
so i'm wondering if the connection is with the Craven engineers of Manchester or is he the Tea Dealer that Ospreys has found.  How sure can i be that the tea dealer is my John Craven, Osprey? 

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Re: Craven Family Manchester
« Reply #29 on: Friday 04 March 11 10:22 GMT (UK) »
you could get the marriage cert from 1901 and see what occupation Francis Bede gives for his father

GRO ref
Francis Bede Craven june qtr 1901 Bath 5c pg 1224 with Jane Elleray on the same page

or you can order by post from the Superintendent Registrar in Bath. There won't be a parish record as the marriage was in the registry office.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0c4d/
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Craven Family Manchester
« Reply #30 on: Friday 04 March 11 11:12 GMT (UK) »
yet again Osprey - I thank you...........

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Re: Craven Family Manchester
« Reply #31 on: Friday 04 March 11 11:15 GMT (UK) »
ah - the marriage certificate I have............ and Francis's Father is listed as Gentleman, so doesn't really narrow it down.  Jane's Father was a Farmer.  Still a bit stuck on this then........

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Re: Craven Family Manchester
« Reply #32 on: Friday 04 March 11 11:52 GMT (UK) »
sorry, I forgot you mentioned you had that cert. Do you have his birth cert?

Francis Bede Craven june qtr 1871 Chorley vol 8e pg 471

That should give an occupation and you could compare the address to the one I found for the family in 1871. His older brother is still at that address (Westwood)  in 1901.

1881 Westwood House RG11/4216 folio 66 pg 8
John Craven head mar 56 wholesale & retail grocer & tea & coffee merchant b. Lancs, Whittle le Woods
Elizabeth wife 47 b. Preston
John son 20 medical student b. Chorley
Ann Dowling 26? general servant b. Ireland

1881 Arthur, Charles & Francis (enumerated as Frank) are at a school in Lower Bullingham in Herefordshire run by the Sisters of Charity of St Vincent de Paul
http://www.visitoruk.com/historydetail.php?id=11338&cid=592&f=Hereford

It's a pity that the house address isn't given on the 1891 census.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Craven Family Manchester
« Reply #33 on: Monday 07 March 11 23:29 GMT (UK) »
I believe your cravens may have known my Heatleys.

When I can get my head round things i will post more but I belive they were well to do in Chorley.

My Heatleys also came to Manchester.

Marriage: 19 May 1836 St George, Chorley, Lancashire, England
John Heatley - Chemist and Druggist of London in the county of Middlesex
Ellen Jackson - Spinster
    Witness: John Roskell Arrowsmith; L Lucas; Ann Heatley; E Craven
Cooper     Camberwell. Manchester
Callow        I.O.M.
Ellis, Heatley, Hayden,  Manchester
Mellings     Mertha

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Re: Craven Family Manchester
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 08 March 11 13:18 GMT (UK) »
ok goldy - thank you.  I'll wait to hear further from you.

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Re: Craven Family Manchester
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 13:44 GMT (UK) »
so far I found this

born 1861
   John CRAVEN   Chorley   Preston   mum maiden HAYES
1862

Elizabeth  CRAVEN   Chorley   Preston   mm HAYES

1871
Francis Bede CRAVEN      Leyland   Preston   mm HAYES

Marriages Dec 1849
Craven    John        
Hayes    Elizabeth         Preston   

if Francis lived in altworth poplar farm there was also a place called the Hayes mums maiden
http://history.wiltshire.gov.uk/gallery/map/atworth_map003.jpg
Cooper     Camberwell. Manchester
Callow        I.O.M.
Ellis, Heatley, Hayden,  Manchester
Mellings     Mertha