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Re: Docklands family, liverpool
« Reply #9 on: Friday 04 March 11 13:15 GMT (UK) »
Fantastic, cheers! :) I can go and look that up on the old maps now!
West Lancashire - Leatherbarrow, Hunter, Sherman, Formby, Caunce, Cookson, Wright, Finch, Roughley, Sutch, Almond, Parr, Lea, Smith, Wignal, Marsh, Lovelady
Liverpool - Cottam, Candeland, Stewart, Breen, Owens, Wiseman, Johnson, Cross
Cheshire - Monks, Candeland, Cottam
Co. Durham - Palmer, Adamson
Shropshire - Huffa
Wales - Owens. Ireland - Breen, Wiseman

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 04 March 11 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone for the brilliant replies and advice regarding John ( James ) Mackie.  According to the 1901 census the family lived in Steel street which I cant find on any old map of liverpool - could this have been near athol street as he still worked in the gasworks??
Bladen, Regan, Owen, Mackie, Barrett, Berrett, Elwell, Longley, Watton, Pew, Blackburn.

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Re: Docklands family, liverpool
« Reply #11 on: Friday 04 March 11 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Try this fantastic A-Z of old Liverpool which I found a link to on this forum a few weeks back! Steel Street was right next to the gas works. http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/liverpoolaz/streets.htm#B
West Lancashire - Leatherbarrow, Hunter, Sherman, Formby, Caunce, Cookson, Wright, Finch, Roughley, Sutch, Almond, Parr, Lea, Smith, Wignal, Marsh, Lovelady
Liverpool - Cottam, Candeland, Stewart, Breen, Owens, Wiseman, Johnson, Cross
Cheshire - Monks, Candeland, Cottam
Co. Durham - Palmer, Adamson
Shropshire - Huffa
Wales - Owens. Ireland - Breen, Wiseman

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Re: Docklands family, liverpool
« Reply #12 on: Friday 04 March 11 20:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lal, thanks very much for the A to Z map - you wonderful person  !!!!! cheers  xx
Bladen, Regan, Owen, Mackie, Barrett, Berrett, Elwell, Longley, Watton, Pew, Blackburn.


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Re: Docklands family, liverpool
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 05 March 11 00:34 GMT (UK) »
It was Ann In The UK who posted that a few weeks back - I was delighted because I found several streets I'd not been able to place (e.g. Hook Street, Doncaster Street), because half of old Liverpool has been obliterated :(

This is another good one I found on this forum:
www.scottiepress. org - LOTS of photos on there!
West Lancashire - Leatherbarrow, Hunter, Sherman, Formby, Caunce, Cookson, Wright, Finch, Roughley, Sutch, Almond, Parr, Lea, Smith, Wignal, Marsh, Lovelady
Liverpool - Cottam, Candeland, Stewart, Breen, Owens, Wiseman, Johnson, Cross
Cheshire - Monks, Candeland, Cottam
Co. Durham - Palmer, Adamson
Shropshire - Huffa
Wales - Owens. Ireland - Breen, Wiseman

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Re: Docklands family, liverpool
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 05 March 11 14:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lal,   thanks I have been on that website - very good site.    Cheers Sue
Bladen, Regan, Owen, Mackie, Barrett, Berrett, Elwell, Longley, Watton, Pew, Blackburn.

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Re: Docklands family, liverpool
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 20 November 11 02:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I've seen a few mentions of the Athol St Gasworks. My G G Grandfather, William Harding born 1826, came to Liverpool somewhere around 1853 from somewhere in Ireland, and worked as a fireman/stoker until his death in 1884, his son, my G Grandfather, James Harding carried on the tradition, his son William George was another "company man", and retired as manager in the late 40's, early 1950's, and I remember walking down Athol St to visit them. My query is that among the other stokers there's an Irish thread, was there a common place of origin, or did the job availability get passed on through Church etc? They lived around the area in Hopwood St originally, then Orry St etc. St Alban's seems to have been their church.

I can't find my Liverpool born g g Grandmother's family name, and can only find the family on the censuses (Censi?) So I guess the only access to birth/marriage details would be through Church records in Liverpool Archives?
 
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 20 November 11 10:09 GMT (UK) »
Hiya Pete and welcome to Rootschat...why not start a new Thread about your g grandfather and g grandmother - post their names / dates / and info you have , and then we will see if we can find any ifo regarding g grandmothers maiden name...
so we are looking for the marriage of James Harding and the mother of William George Harding....any other info will help a lot....allan
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Re: Docklands family, liverpool
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 20 November 11 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Pete and welcome. :)

I found your family in the 1871 census and saw they had children Jane and William

Latimer Street
William Harding 47
Mary Harding 40
James Harding 17
Margaret Harding 15
Joseph Harding 11
Mary Harding 7
William Harding 5
Jane Harding 3

I searched the baptisms looking for them and found in the Catholic baptism records on Ancestry.

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906
Name:Gulielmus Harding
Birth Date:30 Oct 1865
Baptism Date:12 Nov 1865
Parish:Our Lady of Reconciliation de La Salette
Father's Name:Galielmi Harding
Mother's Name:Maria Grimes


Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906
Name:Maria Harden
Birth Date:15 Sep 1863
Baptism Date:27 Sep 1863
Parish:St Anthony´s
Father's Name:Gulielmi Harden
Mother's Name:Maria Grimes


Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906
about Joanna Harding
Name:Joanna Harding
Birth Date:22 Nov 1867
Baptism Date:28 Dec 1867
Parish:Our Lady of Reconciliation de La Salette
Father's Name:Gulielmi Harding
Mother's Name:Mariae Grimer
(Joanna is translated to Jane and her address was either Hawkin St or Hankin St)
 

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Catholic Baptisms, 1802-1906
Name:Julia Harding
Birth Date:28 Mar 1870
Baptism Date:19 May 1870
Parish:Our Lady of Reconciliation de La Salette
Father's Name:Gulielmi Harding
Mother's Name:Mariae Grimes
 
So I think we can ssume her maiden name was Grimes, although no sign of Julia on the 1871 census, I did find a burial at Ford for a 7mth old Julia Harding her address was Boundary St.

This site may help with the translation of latin names into English.
http://www.from-ireland.net/irish-names/Latin-Names-In-English#display