Barony marriage

[hilarygunn]

I have a couple who were married in Barony I believe. They were Robert Young and Janet Wardrop, 7th Jun 1793.

I also believe he was a cornmiller.

Can anyone help me find anything else about them - their parents, where they lived or where they went to after their marriage (it might have been Cumbernauld, they had children there later on) but there is a seven year gap between their marriage and their first child born in Cumbernauld in 1800.

Thanks
Hilary

[hume]

Hi Hilary,

Here's a list of the children from SP:

Anne, 1798
Robert, 1800
Janet, 1802
James, 1805
William, 1815

All b. Cumbernauld

There's still quite a gap between marriage and the first child, so you may find there was another child unrecorded. This doesn't help when you (may) have to rely on naming patterns.

Have you viewed the entry for Robert and Janet's marriage? If so, does it state any other parish than Barony? It may also be worth viewing the baptisms of the children as family members may be mentioned as witnesses.

You might also be lucky if either Robert or Janet lived to see the first census in 1841. They would be around their 70s mark. I had a quick look but couldn't see anything probable for them.

hume

[hilarygunn]

Thanks for trying, it's a fiendishly common group of names so I haven't been able to trace out the children (apart from Robert who is my gr gr grandfather.
I was hoping for clues about them before 1798 when the first child was born in Cumbernauld, or maybe their children apart from Robert.
Cumbernauld births are available online so I have been able to do that bit. Marriages are more problematic though what with the common names (both family and christian).
I am visiting Cumbernauld next weekend for a look round. I've never been to Scotland before so though it would be a good idea to familiarise myself with the area and have a look round the graveyard at the same time - might get some clues there. It will be a flying visit though for one night because of the cost.
It's cost that stops me using Scotlands People as well. I can't believe they have such a monopoly on information which is freely available in England. It's impossible for pensioners!
Hilary

[hume]

Hi Hilary,

You may want to check out http://www.memento-mori.co.uk/. They have indexes for Cumbernauld which may save time on looking for a gravestone, etc. However, this would depend if the Youngs were able to raise headstones at the time.

I would definitely have a look at the parish record of Robert and Janet's marriage if you haven't already. This would be the most likely record to give you some information. Unfortunately though some records are very plain and only mentioned the names of those being married; no other details. Hopefully there is something there that you can start a search with.

I also have to say that, in my opinion, ScotlandsPeople is very reasonable with regards to their costs, especially when you consider the price of one certificate of England and Wales plus your postage and packaging. There are also lots of free index sites for Scotland too; FreeCen (for early censuses), FreeReg (only some counties are available here) to name but two.

hume

[hilarygunn]

Thank you for the link to the memorial site - I've had a very quick look tonight and can't see any Youngs that I recognise, I'll have to look more closely tomorrow.The trouble is I don't know any of their spouse' names so it's a bit hit and miss anyway. I hope there will be family headstones that will link some together.
I completely agree with you about the comparable costs of certs in England and SP, it's definitely much cheaper in that respect, it's the searching and identifying that is hard in Scotland.
Maybe I've just been lucky in that most of my family come from Somerset and Kent where there is almost full coverage of parish records freely available online - not just on Free reg (which I transcribe for by the way) but on many private sites. Also having an Ancestry subscription means you can do unlimited searches which is great for tracking out side branches. I think I'd be more accepting of SP if they were a subscription service, when I tried it a couple of years ago I found the credits disappeared before I got anywhere and it was very frustrating.
Hilary

[hume]

Hilary,

I think we are all waiting for a subscription-based SP. It would be welcomed by many, and would be a nice relief for my bank balance as well.

I'm still having a look for your Youngs. However, hopefully someone else can chip in here and help you out with some information as well.

hume

[Ringoroses]

I think we are all waiting for a subscription-based SP. It would be welcomed by many, and would be a nice relief for my bank balance as well.

Ditto! 

[hilarygunn]

I'm not sure if it's Brightsolid or the Scottish government that is against a subscription based site - I would guess it's the gov since Findmypast seems to do ok for Brightsolid. Either way it's a shame and must be causing a lot of bad feeling.
I know I'm not the only one who won't buy credits for SP - in my case it's because I can't afford it, but there are others who believe a boycot would soon change their minds.
If there were a subscription option I would happily swap from Ancestry for a year as my English half is as complete as it can be at the moment.
 i've found that the most fun comes from exploring side branches and getting sidetracked which you can't do on a pay as you go site.
I'll do this trip on Saturday (from Yorkshire to Cumbernauld for a one night stay!) then give up I think unless I find something major. That seems less likely now I've looked at the memorial site.
Hilary