Missing Hall Family 1901. PLEASE HELP IF YOU CAN *COMPLETED* Thankyou x

[Evie]

Hi Angeline

Still cannot see them in 1901, I think they were probably in transit somewhere I know that is no help, sorry.

You probably have this but the John Hall you saw in 1911, I believe is in Hebburn in 1891 as a lodger, so that doesn't help either.

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evie

[Evie]

Hi

This is clutching at straws

In 1881 the widowed mother of Eleanor Hall I believe is living John St which is in the parish of St Cuthbert. Could this have been mistaken for St John's on John's marriage certificate?

In 1891 the only address I could find was Johns Street which is now in the parish of St John's.

evie

[Angelines]

Hi Evie,

Yes have that John Hall lodging, what a nightmare I am having tryng to find these lovely people. I can not work this out, maybe once the 1911 census comes out in Scotland I might have a bit more info, still a puzzle why I can not find them anywhere in 1901 though.....lol.

Thanks for you help, it means alot Angeline xx

[Angelines]

Had help from Monica on Lanarkshire board and she found them in Glasgow using mothers maiden name for some strange reason, all sorted now.  I also collected poor relief records from Glasgow confirming my John Hall as the one I thought he was, mothers maiden name being Cuthberston, many thanks to all xx

[Family Tree of Life]

Hi Angeline.

This is a reply 6 years later   

Can I confirm with you that Margaret Ann Hall married Eleanor's brother John Hall??? and this John is your John Hall (the same John Hall who gave birth to Mary, Robert, Alice, Thomas, Annie etc).

Eleanor is my great great grandmother (descended from her first marriage). I have an M Cuthberston or Cuthbertson listed as Eleanor's mum, and Robert Hall being her dad..... which makes John Hall my great great grand uncle

I have no info on this second marriage, so it's going to be interesting to find out if Eleanor married her brother Johns wife's brother Thomas James Hall

Cheers,
Rob

[Angelines]

Hello Rob,

Wow, 6 years on and a reply. I do love this and Rob I can confirm that your Eleanor Hall married Thomas James Hall m 11/3/1893 South Shields. Thomas James Hall being the brother of my ggreat grandmother Margaret Ann Hall.

Angeline x

[Family Tree of Life]

Excellent. Many thanks for that Angeline

My immediate family don't seem to have Eleanor's brother John written down for some reason, so this is all good information.

Relationship-wise, this would make John's wife Margaret my great great grand aunt, and as you are Margaret Ann Hall's great granddaughter, this would make you my '3rd cousin once removed'

Rob

[Angelines]

Fabulous Rob,

Margaret Ann Hall is my great great grandmother. She died young and John left her alone in Scotland to raise their children alone. It’s a very sad story and I’ve yet to find out what became of him. He left the family and never returned. Some things excite you and warm your heart when researching and other things you find out have you in floods of tears. This poor family like many others during this time went through so much.

I have a copy of Thomas and Eleanor’s marriage certificate if you’d like one, welcome to the family x

[Family Tree of Life]

Thanks Angeline, and greetings from Somerset 

I think great great might mean 4th cousin? (we might even be around the same age)

I printed out the following terms chart to try and work it out: 
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As I dig around for more information to build up the family tree, I'll be sure to let you know if I find out anything interesting on Eleanor's brother.

If you have a spare copy of that certificate, I'd be very grateful, thanks very much! 

I think this site will allow me to send private messages? Some sites don't allow until a certain number of posts. I will try and PM you my details...