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1851 Census lookup - Edwin Lees **Completed
« on: Sunday 13 March 11 07:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, can someone find me Edwin Lees b 1845 in Salford, Lancs on the 1851 census please?

His father was Edward Lees, mother unknown.

Thanks so much, rchadz
Names: angus, arnold, chadderton, colley, farrow, fletcher, hobson, hyde, lees, pyle, roberts, swindells

Areas:  Oldham, Aberdeen (Scot) & Otley Yorks

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Re: 1851 Census lookup - Edwin Lees
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 March 11 07:59 GMT (UK) »
You would appear to have got this information from his marriage certificate but perhaps the other details might prove useful, such as his father's occupation? where he was living? who were the witnesses?

There is a possible family, that have split up by the 1861 census, so presumably the father has died in between 1851 and 1861, but they claim to have all been born in Oldham, however I suspect that is where your Edwin is is 1861 yes? and as he's boarding it might have been the landlady who gave the information so may not be 100% accurate?

1851 Higher Fords Hill, Oldham Below Town, Lancashire
Edward Lees Head Widower 45 Butcher
John son 15 Scholar
Ann daur 11 "
Mary " 7 "
Edwin son 5 "
Hamelet " 3
Nancy sister Un 29 Housekeeper
HO107; Piece:  2240; Folio:  267; Page:  32

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: 1851 Census lookup - Edwin Lees
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 March 11 08:26 GMT (UK) »
Thanks MaryA.

I have discounted this family - you have correctly pointed out the occupation is wrong.  My Edward was a spindle turner.  Also I show (but do not have the certificate yet) that Edwin's mother's name was Ann.

In 1861 Edwin was staying with his half-brother Joseph Chadderton.

Thanks again - rchadz
Names: angus, arnold, chadderton, colley, farrow, fletcher, hobson, hyde, lees, pyle, roberts, swindells

Areas:  Oldham, Aberdeen (Scot) & Otley Yorks


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Re: 1851 Census lookup - Edwin Lees
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 March 11 09:11 GMT (UK) »
Spindle turner = Grinder perhaps?  If so I think this is the family, the children match up with what we know from later marriages and from baptisms

6 Porter Street, Ancoats, Manchester
Edward Lee Head M 23 Grinder in Card Room Lancashire Wigan
Ann Wife M 32 " "
John son 11 " "
Mary A daur 10 " "
Elizabeth daur 7 " Manchester
Squire son 1 " "
Walter son 2 " "
Ann Ewitt servant U 24 House Servant " Warrington
Jane " Visitor U 19 " " "
HO107; Piece:  2226; Folio:  758; Page:  35
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: 1851 Census lookup - Edwin Lees
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 March 11 09:17 GMT (UK) »
Okay so this is a plausible match for Edward (the father) but Edwin (age 6yrs) is missing.

In any case I appreciate your efforts so much.

Regards,  rchadz
Names: angus, arnold, chadderton, colley, farrow, fletcher, hobson, hyde, lees, pyle, roberts, swindells

Areas:  Oldham, Aberdeen (Scot) & Otley Yorks

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Re: 1851 Census lookup - Edwin Lees
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 March 11 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi rchadz,

There is this one

1851 Salford Greengate Unfilmed
York St- In Cellar
LEES
Edward      Head    M   45     Roller Turner Operative       Oldham
Ann            Wife     M   44                                             Gt. Budworth, Cheshire
Paul            Son           13     Cotton Dyer Apprentice       Salford
Edwin         Son            8                                                  Salford
Emma         Dau            4                                                  Salford

Hope this helps

Regards,  Dave

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Re: 1851 Census lookup - Edwin Lees
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 March 11 00:50 GMT (UK) »
Thanks David, this one seems to tick all the boxes, your assistance is appreciated very very much :) :) :)

Regards,  rchadz
Names: angus, arnold, chadderton, colley, farrow, fletcher, hobson, hyde, lees, pyle, roberts, swindells

Areas:  Oldham, Aberdeen (Scot) & Otley Yorks

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Re: 1851 Census lookup - Edwin Lees
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 March 11 09:12 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again to everyone, Please see the reply from Bursy - is it possible to see if Edward and Ann Lees were present on the 1841 and 1861 censuses?   rchadz
Names: angus, arnold, chadderton, colley, farrow, fletcher, hobson, hyde, lees, pyle, roberts, swindells

Areas:  Oldham, Aberdeen (Scot) & Otley Yorks

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Re: 1851 Census lookup - Edwin Lees
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 March 11 23:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

A possible on the 1841 census although the Paul in the 1851 census is Daniel on the 1841.  The 1851 entry is from the recovered census that was water damaged so Paul may have been a very badly written Daniel to start with.  There is a baptism for a Daniel to an Edward and Ann Lees and Manchester Collegiate Church (Cathedral)
on 8th July, 1838.

Barlow Court, Salford
Ages above 15 were rounded down to the nearest 0 or 5
All born in County

Edward Lees, 30, Roller Turner
Ann Lees, 30
Daniel Lees, 3

Mo

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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)