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A date for the ladies please!
« on: Wednesday 16 March 11 09:06 GMT (UK) »
Sorry about the quality of these but my scanner is on the blink - I hope there is enough information to hazard a guess as to possible dates for these ladies

These are both on metal plates (daguerreotypes?) and both quite dark in real life.

My mum tells me that the two ladies are mother and daughter - in which case, which one do you all think is the mother?  Mum and I disagree on this one!

Thank you very much for taking the time!

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Re: A date for the ladies please!
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 March 11 09:09 GMT (UK) »
If they are mother and daughter i would say the one on the left is the mother  :D

Judy  ;)
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Re: A date for the ladies please!
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 March 11 09:13 GMT (UK) »
If they are mother and daughter i would say the one on the left is the mother  :D

Judy  ;)

Thanks, so would I!!!  Indeed, there is little similarity between them.  The chances of them being sisters I guess is equally slim.  I havent seen them quite so large before and am astonished that my small granddaughter just came in and asked if the one on the right was me!!!!  Oh dear, but I do see the similarities!

I think the one on the left looks very sick actually - and am just wondering whether she could possibly have been the single lady when she was in prime health.  If the single lady is who my mum thinks she is, then she did die young.

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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 March 11 09:17 GMT (UK) »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

At least there must be a family connection then!!

Best wishes, Judy :-))


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Re: A date for the ladies please!
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 March 11 14:58 GMT (UK) »
These are tintypes...daguerreotypes were from the 1840s. A tintype is actually printed on iron, so they tend to rust.

There are all from about 1900-1905ish I'd say, although of course the third one is harder because you can't see much of her outfit.

Tintypes were developed directly on the metal without a negative, so the image is reversed. If you are looking for a wedding ring on a glass or metal photo, you have to look at the "right" hand. Here is how they were actually sitting.

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 March 11 17:15 GMT (UK) »
Loathe as I am to disagree with China but the 1st. one is 1893-5.the lady on the left in the original is in a late 1880's-early 1890's style,the lady on the right is in a mid 1890's style.They are both wearing toques which was a late 1880's - early 1890's type of headware & not seen after this.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
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Re: A date for the ladies please!
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 March 11 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Agree the lady on the left (or the right) is out of date, but the gigot sleeve looks more like the brief early 1900s comeback.

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 March 11 19:21 GMT (UK) »
Ah!  I was wondering about the wedding rings!  So they were both married ladies at that time.

They are later than my mum indicated (not surprised, she has been systematically wrong with all her information thus far!) as she had identified them as a lady born 1827 and 1860! (her grandmother and great grandmother).  Back to the drawing board with identification then!!!  She also believed that the single lady was one who died in 1865 so way off the mark!!!!

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 March 11 19:48 GMT (UK) »
I think this is the first one of these.

jim
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/