Author Topic: Letitia Morrow married to James Morrow 1904.  (Read 3292 times)

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Re: Letitia Morrow married to James Morrow 1904.
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 14:25 GMT (UK) »
I hope it helps.
Gaffy has outlined the possible scenario.

It is odd though.
Lucenda was registered as Morrow and John was described as a Carpenter - as on the marriage certificates.
Then the two girls were registered as Finnegan which, if they were John Morrow’s girls, Mary would still be Finnegan so that could be in order.
The marriage though between Mary and John Morrow shows him as a Weaver  :-\

Perhaps he was married and when his wife died, he was free to marry Mary.
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Re: Letitia Morrow married to James Morrow 1904.
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 15:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Sorry to throw another spanner in the works. Just thought from now on double-check everything. So I just checked the three Finnegan births on Family Search and found John 1866, Mary Jane 1869,  parents names John Finnegan & Mary Johnston Finnegan but in Lurgan, County Westmeath. Also further down a birth record for Sarah Finnegan b 1872 - d 1896. Strange as this Lurgan is about 40 minutes drive away from where I live now...in County Offaly.

Is this just a realy strange coincidence or should it read Lurgan, County Armagh?




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Re: Letitia Morrow married to James Morrow 1904.
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 15:28 GMT (UK) »
The links to the birth records in gaffy’s reply #13 are Lurgan, Armagh.
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Re: Letitia Morrow married to James Morrow 1904.
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Sorry to throw another spanner in the works. Just thought from now on double-check everything. So I just checked the three Finnegan births on Family Search and found John 1866, Mary Jane 1869,  parents names John Finnegan & Mary Johnston Finnegan but in Lurgan, County Westmeath. Also further down a birth record for Sarah Finnegan b 1872 - d 1896. Strange as this Lurgan is about 40 minutes drive away from where I live now...in County Offaly.

Is this just a realy strange coincidence or should it read Lurgan, County Armagh?

Don't worry about the geographical locations in FamilySearch database just go by the actual records  (Irish Genealogy). FS moved Ballymoney, Co. Antrim to County Cork years ago but lately the locations seem to be really strange nd incorrect.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Letitia Morrow married to James Morrow 1904.
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 15:50 GMT (UK) »
Is this possibly John Morrow's death and if so, was the marriage precipitated by deteriorating health (look at duration of illness)?  Pure speculation of course.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05970/4697187.pdf

This man was no spring chicken, but Mary herself must have been heading towards 60 at that point.


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Re: Letitia Morrow married to James Morrow 1904.
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 16:00 GMT (UK) »
That looks interesting.

There is this Mary in 1901. Has Obin Street come up before in a record?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Portadown_Urban/Obin_Street/1030325/
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Re: Letitia Morrow married to James Morrow 1904.
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Just also noticed a son Thomas born to John Finegan and Mary Johnston in 1868:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03446/2265118.pdf

Presumably there may be several older siblings in that decade between John and Mary's marriage and the introduction of civil registration of births... 


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Re: Letitia Morrow married to James Morrow 1904.
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 17 February 21 16:13 GMT (UK) »

That looks interesting.

There is this Mary in 1901. Has Obin Street come up before in a record?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Portadown_Urban/Obin_Street/1030325/


It has indeed, in the birth registration you found for 'Lucenda' Morrow.  The mother in that record was described as Mary Johnston, with 'formerly' stroked out... which is significant..

So what is the likely story here?  Is it that after John Finegan died in 1872, Mary (Johnston) Finegan had 3 daughters out of wedlock with John Morrow, before eventually marrying him in 1893 as his health failed? Certainly an interesting story.


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Re: Letitia Morrow married to James Morrow 1904.
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 18 February 21 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi, This makes interesting reading and from what you have found certainly seems like this Lititia Morrow is my g-grandmother. Checked to see where Clifford Street was in 1901 and it ran from Roden St to Magentic St. James and Letitia (correct spelling) are living at 86 Roden Street in 1911. What's the chances of a connection between Mary Johnston and Letitia Johnston from Donegal....that would be an intersting twist!!  Thank you so much for all your help   

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Terry