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THOMAS ELLIS
« on: Sunday 20 March 11 19:43 GMT (UK) »
I would be most grateful for any help with the following:

My Grandfather, Thomas Ellis born Rhos but uncertain about year but I think most likely 1868/1869.  I have found several birth records which could correspond but since no parents names available I can't cross- check and don't want to order several certificates.

If someone could look up for me - Thomas Ellis, father John Ellis, mother Elizabeth Ellis please.

Thanks, Gwen in France

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Re: THOMAS ELLIS
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 March 11 19:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Members of the public do not have access to birth certs

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 March 11 19:48 GMT (UK) »
I was thinking more of Parish records perhaps

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 March 11 20:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gwen,the 1871 Census shows Thomas with a brother William aged about 7 and sister Sarah aged nine months,there could be the possibility that father John married twice.

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Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: THOMAS ELLIS
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 March 11 20:58 GMT (UK) »
hi dont know if this is the same family 1881 census i found john ellis married age 30 coal miner elizabeth 38 william 18 coal miner thomas 13 coal miner sarah 10 edward 8 john 6 hannah 4 robert 2 at johnson st ruabon denbigh                         
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 March 11 21:39 GMT (UK) »
1871 census gives his dob as 1869, and he's living with parents and a brother and sister in Rhos.
 1881 census gives dob 1868  and he is living with his parents John and Elizabeth & 6 brothers and sisters William,Sarah,John,Edward,Hannah,Robert in Ruabon.
1891 he's not with his Father, who is now a widower and living with his brother in Ruabon. I don't know where Thomas is in 1891 but I know where he is in 1901 as he gets married to my Grandma in Glamorganshire.
I want to order his birth certificate but I have three GRO birth references which could be him - 1868 -11b321 - 1868 -11b301 & 1869 -11b345 so I wondered if in the parish record for these dates it would give the names of the parents so I would know which if any of these references was him, then I can order just one certificate instead of three

thanks Gwen

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 March 11 22:12 GMT (UK) »
A better bet would be to order sister Hannah's Certificate,for her's there is no alternative.The GRO ref is Wrexham District,April quarter 1877,Volume 11b,Page 324.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: THOMAS ELLIS
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 March 11 22:13 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure how that would be of help to me to determine which Thomas is the one I'm looking for

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 March 11 22:44 GMT (UK) »
Well Gwen,it seems quite obvious to me how it would help.You would find out mother Elizabeth's maiden name!

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk