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Butler 1818 [Completed]
« on: Friday 15 April 11 19:34 BST (UK) »
Looking for a marriage between Thomas Butler  born 1818 Carlton, Nottingham  he died somewhere between 1871-1881 not found the real date yet and Elizabeth 1818 epperstone, Nottingham -    i have found at least 3/4 different elizabeth in my search. 

they lived in snenton(sneinton) in 1851,61,71,81

if anyone can help me search for this?
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Re: Butler 1818
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 April 11 20:10 BST (UK) »
A copy of one of their childrens birth certs will give her maiden name but see birth reg below

Eldest child was 7yrs old in 1851 and b Carlton so marriage probably between 1841-1844

Carlton was in the Basford Registration District and there is only one marriage in that RD between those dates on freebmd - so she was possibly Elizabeth Hallam

Youngest child in 1851 was Margaret aged 1 month

Births March qtr 1851   
Margaret Hallam Butler   Radford  15 717
 
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Re: Butler 1818
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 April 11 15:30 BST (UK) »
From Notts Marriage Index -

Thomas Butler married Elizabeth Hallam, 13th September 1841, Gedling All Hallows.

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Re: Butler 1818
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 April 11 18:12 BST (UK) »
A copy of one of their childrens birth certs will give her maiden name but see birth reg below

Eldest child was 7yrs old in 1851 and b Carlton so marriage probably between 1841-1844

Carlton was in the Basford Registration District and there is only one marriage in that RD between those dates on freebmd - so she was possibly Elizabeth Hallam

Youngest child in 1851 was Margaret aged 1 month

Births March qtr 1851   
Margaret Hallam Butler   Radford  15 717
 


Ah! thats why the searches didnt work! Basford all makes sense now, thankyou Carol


From Notts Marriage Index -

Thomas Butler married Elizabeth Hallam, 13th September 1841, Gedling All Hallows.

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Willsmum.

Willsmum had been searching for this just now, thankyou, I now got the volume number and page


Hallam   Elizabeth   Basford   15   598






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Re: Butler 1818
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 May 11 15:18 BST (UK) »
i got the certificate in the post!

trying to decipher it now

Rank or Profession gives  --  fwk = framework knitter

Residence is Carlton

Father name: William Butler

Her Father name: looks like a Thomas Hallam

Age:full age of 21

Witnesses looks like : Samuel Holland  and Elizabeth Newham

 
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Re: Butler 1818
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 May 11 17:22 BST (UK) »
Hi

Could the occupation be FWK - Frame work Knitter

I found this baptism

Thomas Butler 23.6. 1817 to William & Sarah at Gedling All  Hollows - occupation FWK

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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt, Stodd.
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Potts,Slack,Robinson, Cooper
Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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Re: Butler 1818
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 May 11 18:56 BST (UK) »
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Age just says Full Age why is that? what is that 20? 21?


Full age was 21 or over and it was very common for some registrars to show this entry instead of the actual age.  The other entry used was "minor" indicating under 21yrs
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Re: Butler 1818
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 May 11 19:33 BST (UK) »
Hi

Could the occupation be FWK - Frame work Knitter

I found this baptism

Thomas Butler 23.6. 1817 to William & Sarah at Gedling All  Hollows - occupation FWK

Carol

Carol thankyou not sure where you found that!! ?

but thats where they were married!
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Re: Butler 1818
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 May 11 20:13 BST (UK) »
Wonder if this is Elizabeth and Thomas in 1841 -living next door to each other????

1841
Carlton Nottingham'
William Butler 45 FWK
Sarah 35
THOMAS 20
John 15
Ann 10
Maria 10
Henery Ragsdale 20 FWK
Mary Ragsdale 20
John Ragsdale 1mth
William Wilkins 35 FWK J

next door

William Newham 50 FWK
Elizabeth 45
Elizabeth 20 (witness at marriage???)
Thomas 15 FWK
Charles 10 FWK
John 10 FWK
Jane 5
William 4
Hannah 2
Emma Webster 2mth
Samuel Parker 25 FWK J
Joseph Nelson 20 FWK J
ELIZABETH HALLAM 20

next door but 3

James Holland 65 aglab
Mary 60
Ann 25
Charles 30 Ag lab
SAMUEL  20 FWK J (possibly witness at marriage??)

all b in county

FWK J = Framework Knitter Journeyman

HO107 865 12 43 18


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