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Re: what do rootschatters make of g grannies story (Gypsy or not)
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 27 March 19 23:32 GMT (UK) »
Did you ever get any further Yasmina. Unfortunately I havenít but itís not through not trying. As frustrating as it gets I wonít ever give up.think Iím addicted
 
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No further news I'm sad to say.

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Re: what do rootschatters make of g grannies story (Gypsy or not)
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 28 March 19 01:31 GMT (UK) »
I have a family story running on parallel lines, although my ancestor born a decade before yours, wasn't a gypsy but a travelling musician.

When times were hard you made a living where and how you could and during that particular period there were groups of musicians travelling throughout Europe and some of the more organised ones even travelled further afield.  They'd play at music festivals and busk in streets especially outside of theatres, markets, etc.  It was common practice to use young children to encourage an audience to give money.

My gt. grandfather was one of about 12 children, he was six years old and his sister two years younger when they travelled around Europe busking with their mother's brother who taught them to play the violin. GGF arrived in England when he was 10 years 1 day old.  His uncle eventually met and married a harp playing daughter of another musician who had stopped moving around and had set up a (boarding) school of music in the north of England.   Life must have been hard as none of the older members of the two groups lived to a very great age.

I managed to find most of the story by chance because I kept noticing the frequency of the other family's name and eventually contacted the am researcher for his family story.   It turned out that my gt grandfather's cousin (a daughter of the uncle) had married into the other band of musicians.

I was lucky enough to find a cousin of my late mother who filled me in with other personal bits of GGF's life.  Maybe you will be lucky enough to find a relative who has a few more tidbits to offer.
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Re: what do rootschatters make of g grannies story (Gypsy or not)
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 28 March 19 02:56 GMT (UK) »
Did you ever get any further Yasmina. Unfortunately I havenít but itís not through not trying. As frustrating as it gets I wonít ever give up.think Iím addicted
 
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Re: what do rootschatters make of g grannies story (Gypsy or not)
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 31 March 19 08:18 BST (UK) »
My Great grandmother marries in warwickshire in 1908 (which is where i am now) on the marriage cert it says William was a musician he is deceased but one of the witnesses is her brother William i couldn't find him in 1901

Not quite dumped then if a brother is the witness on the marriage?
How did he know where she was to attend her marriage?
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
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Re: what do rootschatters make of g grannies story (Gypsy or not)
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 31 March 19 09:41 BST (UK) »
Gro:
TRIBE, MARTHA  SARAH KATE    HOOPER 
GRO Reference: 1890  J Quarter in EPSOM  Volume 02A  Page 17

The youngest did she die unwed??

Martha S K Tribe
Died Surrey in 1959
Birth Year 1891
Age 68
Event Quarter 1


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Re: what do rootschatters make of g grannies story (Gypsy or not)
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 31 March 19 09:52 BST (UK) »
Yes she did iv found her on 1939 register.
I have no idea how her brother knew where she was unless he was left in Warwickshire too I donít know as Iím unable to find him on 1901/1911 census.
On the 1901 census it says my g grandmother is a boarder which I find strange if she had been sold for service surely it would say servant.
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 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
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 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
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Re: what do rootschatters make of g grannies story (Gypsy or not)
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 31 March 19 10:00 BST (UK) »
GRO:
TRIBE, EDITH  ANNIE     HOOPER 
GRO Reference: 1883  J Quarter in CROYDON  Volume 02A  Page 248

Possibly married (freebdm)
Marriages Sep 1906   

RATCLIFF    John        Epsom    2a   69   
TRIBE    Edith Annie        Epsom    2a   69

Their Possible child
GRO
RATCLIFF, EDITH  SARAH     TRIBE 
GRO Reference: 1907  S Quarter in EPSOM  Volume 02A  Page 27    


Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
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Re: what do rootschatters make of g grannies story (Gypsy or not)
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 31 March 19 10:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you whiteout I hadnít seen that birth, I agree that that could be their child named after her little sister
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