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Offline Annie65115

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« on: Monday 25 April 11 19:20 BST (UK) »
Back in the 18th century, was Shap ever spelled as Shapp?

(I have some Cheshire BMDs which refer to the father's parents as being of Shapp or Shaff and can't think of anywhere other than Shap that this could be. I haven't seen the original register entries and think that a curly P could have been mistranscribed as a double F).
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Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
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Re: Shap
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 June 11 11:03 BST (UK) »
There are a 5 SHAPP burials listed in the NBI3edition, much depends on how good/bad
the original PR's were to the transcriber/s.

There are 2 in York west riding 1 in Lincs, 1 in Bucks and 1 in Mdsex.

There are a number of SHAP, also Schapp and Schaap.

PM me if you want details.

Mike.
Townson - Cartmel                      O'Malley - Askeaton, Ireland
Sadler - Dymock & Salford           Tomlinson - St Peters, Leeds
Wilkinson - Salford                      Chant - Sherbourne, Dorset
Garner - Pendleton

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Re: Shap
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 June 11 14:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie,

From Nicolson & Burn: The History & Antiquities of the Counties of Westmorland and Cumberland published in 1777.

" Shap was invariably in ancient times written as Hep or Heppe, most probably from the fruit of the bramble which still bears that name. By the common people that fruit is still pronounced choup, from whence the transition to Shap is not difficult."

Could your people have just not known how it was usually spelled?

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Re: Shap
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 June 11 14:14 BST (UK) »
There are lots of old maps of Westmorland on this site:

http://www.geog.port.ac.uk/webmap/thelakes/html/lakemenu.htm

and the 1645 Blaeu map http://www.geog.port.ac.uk/webmap/thelakes/html/maps/bla6.htm has Shap as Shapp!

Brie