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1352 Latin Grant
« on: Thursday 28 April 11 04:37 BST (UK) »
Once again I need help.

This 1352 Grant of messuage & ½ Cornish Acre called Little Nantyan was from William BODRUGAN, knight, to Nicholas Hattchastel and his wife Joan.

Can anyone help me, please?

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Grantley

........................................ Redd[endum] inde
line 5. annuati[m] michi h[er]ed’ meis v’l assig’is quatuordecim solid[os] sterlingor[um] ad quatuor anni t[erm]i[n]os p[ri]ncipal[es] [a]equis  porci
  • nibus p[ro] om[n]ibus s[er]vitus

line 6. saluo to... tallage et r..s.. d[ic]tas terras cu’ p[er]tin[entiis] qu[ando] acciderit Et saluis sectis curie ma... sic[ut] alii lib[er]ii tenente faci[nu]nt apud
line 7. Nantyan parvam et no[n] alibi et hoc per r[aci]onabilem summo[nicion]em Et si in in..a ..der.. per tres denare qu... s... qu... ad om[n]ia placita vni
line 8. d.... .... per ...e et .... .... ....d Et salvis sectis ad molad’ .... de Nantyan cu’ om’ia blad[um] sua Et volo et concedo q’d p[re]dct[a]
line 9. Nicho’ Joh[an]na et h[er]ed’ de corp[or]ibus eor’d’m molere possun[t] om’ia blad’ sua .... blad’ ex..st...e in benna saluis blad’ d... qu[ando] .... ad
line 10. p[re]d[ic]tm molend[um] Et ego p[re]d[ic]tus Gul[ie]l[m]us et h[er]ed’ mei’ v’l assig[n]a[tis] p[re]d[ic]ta m[e]suage d[imid]ia[m] acr[e] terr[e] cu’ om’ibus pertin’ suis vt p[re]d’t’m est p[re]di’s

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Re: 1352 Latin Grant
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 June 11 00:03 BST (UK) »
I am still trying to transcribe/translate this document and I do need help.

Lines 7 & 8 appear to refer to “ad omnia placita” or a legal claim by someone else.

Lines 8, 9 & 10 refer to the milling of grain at Nantyan. My attempt is;
And unharmed right to the mill .... of Nantyan with the whole of their grain And wish and grant that the previously named Nicholas, Joan and their lawfull heirs (according to a fixed order of kinship) be able to grind all of their grain .... grain .... in a kind of wickerwork carriage, grain .... when it .... .. afore mentioned mill

Can anyone put me out of my misery?

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Grantley

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Re: 1352 Latin Grant
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 June 11 15:49 BST (UK) »
Grantley,

Sorry I can't help much with transcription, but would suggest re line 9 that "heirs of the body" is not quite the same as "lawful heirs". If Nicholas and Joan were to leave no children of their own, then other relatives might claim to be the latter but not the former. Might be significant from a genealogical angle.

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Re: 1352 Latin Grant
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 June 11 21:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Roger,

Oops, my English failed me again. Thankyou.

I am almost at the stage of giving up on this one, even though I make an alteration/addition every few days.

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Grantley


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Re: 1352 Latin Grant
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 25 October 23 00:06 BST (UK) »
Hi
Are your Bodrugan's from Cornwall as I have abook on their history if I can help