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ZULU CHARLES LORD - Help!!!!
« on: Sunday 01 May 11 03:32 BST (UK) »
Folks,
Ozzie (beginner at this)  requires major help please. I have tracked the family history in Australia and have got to where a great grandfather died under the name of Zulu Charles Schuter Lord. His father appears to have been Charles Schuter (Shooter) Lord but he also died and was buried under the name of Zulu Charles Schuter Lord in 1933. His death record indicates he was born around 1849/50 in Manchester, UK. His father is recorded on the death certificate as Samuel Lord who supposedly was a Sgt Major in the Marines and his mother apparently was Elizabeth Smith. Both of his parents were dead by 1901 according to his Australian marriage records. So far I have not had any luck with internet searches of UK records for either Charles or Samuel.

If anyone could shed some light on this it would be appreciated. The use of ZULU in the name is what got me started in the first place and is really intriguing me. Many thanks.......

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Re: ZULU CHARLES LORD - Help!!!!
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 May 11 03:57 BST (UK) »
Hello

Charles Shooter Lord was born June quarter 1850 Chorlton Lancashire  20 165

Maybe Zulu was a nickname

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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: ZULU CHARLES LORD - Help!!!!
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 May 11 04:22 BST (UK) »

Charles Schuter Lord was born sept quarter 1897 blackburn Lancashire  83 361

Charles Schuter Lord birth place Blackburn Lancashire living Gorton Manchester died 1st July 1916 Flanders France
Enlistment Location  Ashton under Lyne Lancashire
Rank Private
Manchester Regiment 2nd Battalion
Number 2166
killed in action


Looking at the Australian Electoral Records

Zulu Charles Shuter Lord was in the district of Gwydir New South Wales from two listings for 1930  1 for 1936  and 1 for 1943

I cannot view the pages

marriages for Zulu C S Lord to  Elizabeth Legge

and Elsie M Urouhart  father and son??

1 birth in Australia and only 1 death 1933


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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: ZULU CHARLES LORD - Help!!!!
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 May 11 05:58 BST (UK) »
1851 census,
32 Garden Street Ardwick Manchester,
HO107, 220.175 Page 7

Samuel Lord ,velvet dresser and Greenwich pensionner, aged 51 born Manchester,
Elizabeth wife ,aged 40, born Nottingham Culton,
William aged 16 born Woolwich Kent,velvet dresser
Samuel aged 8,born Manchester
Elllen,aged 6 born Manchester
Elizabethaged 3 born Manchester
Charles,aged 1 Manchester
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: ZULU CHARLES LORD - Help!!!!
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 May 11 06:14 BST (UK) »
1871 census Leigh,Lancashire,
33 St Thomas Street,
RG10,3912

lodging with

Thomas Sharrock ,a boilermaker
Elizabeth Lord a widow born Nottingham,Dressmaker
Thomas aged 20 born Manchester ,a boiler maker,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: ZULU CHARLES LORD - Help!!!!
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 May 11 06:21 BST (UK) »
Hiya...  www.lancashirebmd.org.uk   
1850   LORD Charles Shooter    Ardwick    Manchester   ARD/20/87     
allan
added....same site
1897  Lord Charles Shuter    Great Harwood     Preston  (mothers maiden name INGHAM)  G.HAR/58/46   
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: ZULU CHARLES LORD - Help!!!!
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 May 11 06:25 BST (UK) »
Good morning Allan,
 thankyou so that makes the census details  more likely,to be the Charles Lord the poster is looking for,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 May 11 06:40 BST (UK) »
Good morning Radcliff.....there are TWO Lord -Ingham...marriages
1892  John Hague Lord to Catherine Sarah Ingham   st John the divine  Cloughfold  Preston  CE20/1/12

1896 John William Lord   Cecilia Ingham   Blackburn reg office/reg attended   Blackburn RM/126/163

I think the Cloughfold marriage looks more likely....we need to find Charles Shuter Lord in 1901 census aged 3 or 4 with his parents....then we will see which marriage is his parents
allan :)
ADDED...hang on  1890 Benjamin Lord to Elizabeth E Ingham     Rochdale   reg off/reg attended   Rochdale  RM/84/103
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: ZULU CHARLES LORD - Help!!!!
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 May 11 06:50 BST (UK) »
Thats easy to find little Charles is with the Inghams,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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