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Re: Hutchings family from Chichester
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 08 May 11 20:36 BST (UK) »
hello all

thanks for info

Martin, have looked up NA website and found a George Hutchings ADM188/76, although could not find date when he wounded, also, strangely, dob reads 1835.  Where can I look up info on 1910 demise? 

does anyone know what there was in Algier at the time? a hospital?  Malta was under british rule at the time, with british military hospitals, he could have come here


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Re: Hutchings family from Chichester
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 08 May 11 21:04 BST (UK) »
Hi again

Ha! Have just realised that 'Algier' was not meant as in country, but HMS Algier as in ship!

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Re: Hutchings family from Chichester
« Reply #20 on: Monday 09 May 11 07:41 BST (UK) »
Jasmin

My information came from Captain Douglas-Morris book Naval Medals 1857-1880. He collated the information re those wounded from Admiralty Files in the National Archives, and the London Gazette. His entry for Hutchings has (D 1910) [sic], which I interpreted as meaning Died 1910.

On the date of birth issue, this would have been the date HE gave when signing on for Continuous Service.

Martin


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Re: Hutchings family from Chichester
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 10 May 11 14:40 BST (UK) »
Hi

The UK Naval Medal and Award Rolls 1793 - 1972 has the following entry for the Indian Mutiny Medal 1857-1858

Hutchings Geo Bandsman 395 {Dup 9a2 Party 11.11.1910
                                              L I/28 Sent to Algiers 22.5.1861}

I take Dup to mean duplicate :-\

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Hutchings family from Chichester
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 10 May 11 15:02 BST (UK) »
From the Westhampnett parish registers

Baptisms
17 Sep 1837 George son of George and Frances Hutchens labourer of Westerton
16 Jun 1839 Thomas son of George and Frances Hutchens labourer of Westerton
28 Nov 1841 Henry son of George and Frances Hutchins labourer of Westerton
9 Jun 1844 William son of George and Frances Hutchings labourer of Westerton
21 Oct 1846 Allen son of George and Frances Hutchings labourer of Westerton

Burials
21 Oct 1848 Allen Hutchings age 2
26 Dec 1859 John Hutchings age 42 from Appledram
8 Oct  1875 Martha Huthcings age 63

Marriages
11 May 1856 George Hutchins widow to Martha Triggs widow
12 Mar 1867 Henry Hutchings Petty Officer RN to Martha Ticehurst

I could not find a burial for Frances in Westhampnett or Eastergate which is puzzling, maybe she left George senior.

Hope this is all of some help
Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Hutchings family from Chichester
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 10 May 11 15:04 BST (UK) »
Jasmin

Perhaps the (D 1910) means Duplicate, and not Died as I originally thought.

Martin

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Re: Hutchings family from Chichester
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 10 May 11 16:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all info

It seems that Sara seems to be a frances after all.  As soon as we have the death certificate of George Jnr hopefully this would confirm it.  With all this info together we would have a whole family to trace back and not have to stop at a Sara who strangely does not seem to exist.

My sister has just managed to get hold of G Jnrs final official Navy logs which confirm him on other ships till 1876, and at long last, posted to Malta. His date of birth on this document is now confirmed as 20th August 1835, born Chichester, Sussex.

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Re: Hutchings family from Chichester
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 10 May 11 17:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Jasmin

The birth date only confirms what George told them - if the Westerton family are the right ones then George probably gave the right birthday but added 2 years to his age. Perhaps he was actually too young to join the navy? What date did he join?

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Hutchings family from Chichester
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 02 June 11 06:43 BST (UK) »
Hello all

Yesterday managed to obtain the (church) marriage certificate of George Jnr and Guzeppa Carbonaro (Josephine).

In this certificate, details re mother and father of groom confirm - Sara Fleet and George Hutchings (WIDOWER OF SARA TURNER). 

This new news of a Sara Turner should help us know for sure that our George Snr of Chichester, is the Winterton one. 

Trying to obtain George Jnr's death certificate is proving somewhat difficult, as date is unknown and looking up this can only be done manually.  The plus about finding it is that it should have even more details.