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Re: Origin of PAWLYBY/ PALBY family of Stoke Damerel ?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 19:19 GMT (UK) »
Maria Louisa PAWLBY was the daughter of John & Elizabeth and was baptised at Morice Street Wesleyan, Devonport 5 Aug 1822 (born 10th April 1822). Father described as a carpenter. Cornelius Lee and sister Catherine Lee PAWLBY were both baptised at Stoke Damerel 9th Aug 1829, parents John (a builder) and Elizabeth.
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Re: Origin of PAWLYBY/ PALBY family of Stoke Damerel ?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 19:52 GMT (UK) »
Maria Louisa PAWLBY was the daughter of John & Elizabeth and was baptised at Morice Street Wesleyan, Devonport 5 Aug 1822 (born 10th April 1822). Father described as a carpenter. Cornelius Lee and sister Catherine Lee PAWLBY were both baptised at Stoke Damerel 9th Aug 1829, parents John (a builder) and Elizabeth.

Thank you! I believe he was a cabinet maker, but there are some references on the net about his profession as mechant:

https://books.google.com.ar/books?id=WfQuAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA414&lpg=PA414&dq=john+pawlby+stoke+damerel&source=bl&ots=GZy2NEeiMt&sig=ACfU3U0ijTC58COaoynAQIaeBHLrhMKGyQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjtluTzvLngAhW5FLkGHc83B40Q6AEwAXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=john%20pawlby&f=false

https://books.google.com.ar/books?id=XzFKAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA1725&lpg=PA1725&dq=john+pawlby+stoke+damerel&source=bl&ots=XerFA-yT2y&sig=ACfU3U1ae2KuBgIK0dmZTmeB0y1CozmZ6w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjtluTzvLngAhW5FLkGHc83B40Q6AEwCnoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=john%20pawlby%20stoke%20damerel&f=false


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Re: Origin of PAWLYBY/ PALBY family of Stoke Damerel ?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 14 February 19 18:04 GMT (UK) »
Another interesting reference about John Paulby, mentioned as Rev. John Paulby in the book  The Gardener´s Magazine and Register of Rural and domestic Improvement Vol 18 -Page 547 - 1842 , with a property named Monadon House, in Dovershire.


https://books.google.com.ar/books?id=dB8nAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA547&lpg=PA547&dq=%22john+paulby%22+Monadon+house&source=bl&ots=pb34mNep2-&sig=ACfU3U3Y4VHfCdM31p33b-slQR1H41olBw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiwiODv4bvgAhVcDrkGHXWXCg8Q6AEwAXoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22john%20paulby%22%20Monadon%20house&f=false


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Re: Origin of PAWLYBY/ PALBY family of Stoke Damerel ?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 11 March 19 22:13 GMT (UK) »
There is an interesting query about a possible relation between Paulby/Pawlby family of Stoke Damerel and Parlby family of Gravesend that lived at Plymouth at the same period.

Thomas Parlby was the youngest son of a John Parlby born 1727. He was a famous civil engineering contractor. He built the Plymouth dockyard. His sibling were: Mary, married with his partner, James Templer, and two oldest brothers John and William. They were cabinet makers.

Thomas died at 1802.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Parlby

John Pawlby was a builder and merchant of Stoke Damerel (1792-1834), son of another John Pawlby (1753-1832). As I mentioned before, he was a cabinet maker also, but there are some references about him as a builder and merchant. In an article of The Royal Cornwall Gazette of October 26, 1826, he is mentioned of the owner and builder of a "stadium" for a wrestling (Fotheringham´s coal yard) between the counties of Cann and Polkinghorne, with capacity for 10.000 sites. It is mentioned too as owner of a company named Taman Timber Yard .

Some lines seems to be crossing:

1. The Manadon House mentioned before, with owner Rev. John Pawlby, is mentioned in the following link with a Rev. John Parlby:

http://www.parle.co.uk/genealogy/manadon.htm

2.  In the Gentleman Magazine of 1792, there is a mention of marriage of John Alexander (Thomas Paulby´s son) with Letitia Hall. But he is named John Alexander Pawlby.

https://books.google.com.ar/books?id=L0Y3AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1054&dq=%22paulby%22+Plymouth&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitpIqC1vrgAhXAEbkGHeH4De4Q6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q=%22paulby%22%20Plymouth&f=false

3. John Lee, gentleman, father in law of John Pawlby (b.1792) was appointed master measurer of the Majesty´s dock at Plymouth abt. 1800.

3. The wife of John Lee, Jane Shepheard, was probably related with the family of the High society of Plymouth, with a big manufactory abt. 1760, as it mentioned in the following book, about the commerce in old Plymouth (Burnt, 1816) . Her brother  probably was a Benajmin Shepheard Junior, gentleman, linen draper and mercer (witness in marriage records). 

https://books.google.com.ar/books?id=0SEwAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA96&lpg=PA96&dq=william+burt+review+mercantile&source=bl&ots=kQhzx6cL4M&sig=ACfU3U1sjRpM04tA2GGYpLN4E5AKXCheJw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-1MSBjPvgAhXvEbkGHe_gC3MQ6AEwAXoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=william%20burt%20review%20mercantile&f=false

I believe that it is possible that John Pawlby Sr was a nephew of Thomas Parlby, and a son of his oldest brother John. Im still looking for new clues.

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Re: Origin of PAWLYBY/ PALBY family of Stoke Damerel ?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 12 March 19 12:54 GMT (UK) »
In the book "The Language, Literature and Literary characters of Cornwall" 1806 - Part 1, there is a mention of a Mr. Paulby (Thomas), as a builder

The author of these verses of which I have interlined a literal translation is a Mr Tompson a native of Truro and by profession what we call in Cornwall an engineer that is a maker of engines for the use of the mines to which trade he was bred under his father and in his youth much employed by Mr Pendarves I met him at Plymouth Dock in 1789 where he was engaged in superintending the raisers and hewers of stone under Mr Paulby.

https://books.google.com.ar/books?id=SPs4AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA43&lpg=PA43&dq=%22paulby%22+plymouth&source=bl&ots=zqJtFi_2F_&sig=ACfU3U2JZQ2Y7ssOS2AA9hqFD7OeG10Hkg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjBj9OR0fzgAhUiErkGHUIlBr0Q6AEwDHoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22paulby%22&f=false