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POLAND: Soroczuk
« on: Friday 13 May 11 04:48 BST (UK) »
Hello
I am looking for my mothers family in Poland. Her name was Maria Soroczuk born 1925, her parents names were Wassil and Anna. They lived in Samary Poland. She came to Australia after WWII.
I am finding it hard to locate any papers in Poland about my mother and her family.
Can anyone help me please
Thanks

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Soroczuk
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 May 11 04:53 BST (UK) »
Looking for family members on my mothers side
Maria Soroczuk born 1925, parents Wassil & Anna Lived in samary Poland

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Re: POLAND: Soroczuk
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 May 11 09:25 BST (UK) »
Czesc Krystyna
I can get by with a few basic words of polish but would not know where to start. I know from Polish friends that those who emigrated after WWI and before 1989, often had to take other routes , by Austria or Belgium for example. I think it was still very difficult. Closer to the War, though, perhaps a member of your mother's family was in the forces of some kind - and maybe had a spell in GB for a time ?

In London the organisation POSK - http://www.posk.org/ kept a lot of information as many of the organisers of this had been involved in the Polish Government in Exile. I think that could be a place to start - it's worth an email ? Mowie Po Polsku ? if not I think they all speak English now , so you should be OK.

You now, the other thing I am aware of is that Polish emigrants of that time often covered their tracks - some even changed names for fear of what might happen to their family back home. So sad this situation was ignored after the war by the west.

I performed a quick check on Ancestry and a Lady in Bolton born Poland 1923 died in 2003 - don't know if it is a common name in Poland but maybe too, other branches made it to UK ?

There is also a Wasyl born 1923 in Austria who emigrated to Pennsylvania USA and another example of the same surname in Bolton and one in St Albans UK.

I know that is not the answer you are looking for but maybe a few things might help ???

Good luck with it

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Re: POLAND: Soroczuk
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 June 19 11:29 BST (UK) »
I know this was posted a long time ago but just seen this message. My grandmothers name is Maria Soroczuk and she was born in 1923/1925 we have different birthdates for her. She moved to England however not Australia. She was going to Australia or Canada but ended up in England. If you received this message please let me know whether you found your family or I can be of help

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Re: POLAND: Soroczuk
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 16 June 19 06:58 BST (UK) »
Nj 484

Maria is in Heaton Cemetery

Maria Soroczuk
Find A Grave Index
Name    Maria Soroczuk
Event Type    Burial
Event Date    2003
Event Place    Bolton, Metropolitan Borough of Bolton, Greater Manchester, England
Photograph Included    Y
Birth Date    23 Jan 1923
Death Date    12 Jul 2003
Affiliate Record Identifier    178686116
Cemetery    Heaton Cemetery
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and - my father in law was Ukrainian - and when I see the name Soroczuk I imediately thought it was Ukranian ....MANY Ukranians who came to England said they were Polish - because Ukraine fought WITH the Germans because Russia had invaded Ukraine and they wanted the Russians out of Ukraine .
MARIA was UKRANIAN - not POLISH
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Beautiful photograph of Marias grave
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Her Husband Iwan probably fought with the 14th Waffen
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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/178686116
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my Father in law was with the 14th Waffen Galicia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_%281st_Galician%29
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......†† sacht,helgoland† .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..† jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: POLAND: Soroczuk
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 June 19 07:07 BST (UK) »
Also - may I point out - 46,000 Ukraine POWS came from Italy to England in 1946 - they were given the choice to go home to Ukraine - but were fearful of being shot as traitors by the Russians
THE VAST MAJORITY of surnames are WRONG - my father in law Ostap Kabluckyj couldn't speak a word of English - and a Scottish Sergant who registered him spelt his surname Kabluckyj as Ostap said it - 95% did .so most names are wrong - the only records in the world for Kabluckyj are in Liverpool because the name just didn't exist ... so SOROCZUK - go to www.ukraine.com
register
when accepted look down left hand column
GENEALOGY - click
post the name Soloczuk and see if anyone responds
good luck
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ADDED as I thought - no results
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Soroczuk Family Origin
Where is the Soroczuk family from?
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Sorry, we couldn't find geographic distribution information for Soroczuk.
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......†† sacht,helgoland† .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..† jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: POLAND: Soroczuk
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 16 June 19 07:24 BST (UK) »
so we know Maria was born Maria TKACZUK 23rd January 1923 in the Ukraine - Iwan and Marias 1st born in 1951 ( same age as I am ) gives Marias maiden name as TKACZUK
so - the next step is TKACZUK - is that a name spelt properly ?

YES - 452 RESULTS

https://en.geneanet.org/fonds/individus/?go=1&nom=TKACZUK&prenom=&prenom_operateur=or&with_variantes_nom=&with_variantes_nom_conjoint=&with_variantes_prenom=&with_variantes_prenom_conjoint=&size=10

so the question now is - are these TWO DIFFERENT Maria Sorozuk - or the same person ?
Krystyna - is your mum H****a Soroczuk born 1951 ?
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......†† sacht,helgoland† .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..† jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: POLAND: Soroczuk
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 16 June 19 08:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Maria is in Heaton cemetery and this is my grandmother. I replied to the above poster as it was the same name with many similar details (don etc) but I donít think it is the same person as she was Ukrainian and didnít go to Australia but like was said - many efforts were made to cover trails in the war. Their first born was 6 years before the child you were aware about (born in germany) On her records we have the name Tcatchuk (unsure of spelling)and Plotnik too - which gave confused me. There are also other inconsistencies which Iím interested in digging into.