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Re: COOPERS in Surrey area
« Reply #18 on: Monday 18 July 11 11:42 BST (UK) »
Hi

Would anyone know about the coopers who lived in wilford rd?  I found lots of other family lived in wilford rd not just coopers. I have tons of family living there at the time.

I have lots of diff-grandparents living in wilford rd.

Would anyone know about a Harriet cooper who married a george Gladwin who lived in wilford rd. These are my GG- Grandparents they 1st lived on mitcham common.  She is a romany gypsy and he a irish gypsy.

I think she was born Norwood?

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Re: COOPERS in Surrey area
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 21 July 11 11:24 BST (UK) »
Hi
Just out of curiosity who are the rest of your family names and do I know you?
I am related to the Mills, Thompson, Coopers and HUnts, Taylors and other roads you should be looking at are Forster Road,Qeens road and St Saviours Road, Pawsons Road, Mayo Road etc.
I have lots of info.
Wolfe in Kent and America  Australia and New Zealand (Found)
Bullen. in Berks, Stockwell London and New York
Mills in Croydon & Mitcham Gypsy based
Coopers from Croydon, Norwood
THompson  Croydon & Mitcham and Alnwick/ Northumberland
Green in Croydon and Peckham Camberwell
Reed in Peckham could originate in Ireland
Hunt Bushey Herts walworth Peckham  Croydon, Mitcham Gypsy based
Jessop in and around Kent
Taylors Croydon originate from Nottinghill and Acton
Gardner Mitcham

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Re: COOPERS in Surrey area
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 21 July 11 15:39 BST (UK) »
Hi nightnurse

You don't now me. I'm from a potter family from croydon wilford rd

Not sure if these are same coopers as yours.

My GG-grandmother is Harriet cooper m Geogre gladwin both lived on micham common. than moved onto wilford rd. Her parents are Levi cooper b 1827 m counselletti Hilton b 1891?

And found grave of my GG-gran harriets brother james cooper who married Harriet lee lived in wilford rd.

Buried with his sister Lenda Lee nee' cooper. Think Lenda is a sister

Grave details Queens rd croydon.

Grave no 36209 Lenda Lee died 1836 82yr
 Also james cooper died 1943 and Wife Harriet cooper nee' Lee d 1952 80yr
  Also grandson Frank cooper d 1957 26yr.

    I have Taylors in my tree.  From my GGG-grandmother Kezia Roberts who married George curd. She married a Thomas Taylor before hand who died young and had two children with thomas.

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Re: COOPERS in Surrey area
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 21 July 11 16:05 BST (UK) »
Hi nightnurse

I worked it out now.  Lenda Lee nee' cooper on grave with Grandparents James and Harriet cooper nee'Lee

Lenda married a william lee. William is buried in mitcham with my GG-grandfather George Gladwin who m harriet cooper. whos sister is lenda.

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Re: COOPERS in Surrey area
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 23 July 11 02:15 BST (UK) »
Hi there
I have been doing a Cooper Tree on my Familytreemaker as a private tree basically as a one named tree.
I have gleaned info from different members of the Cooper Tree which hopefully will connect all the Romany Coopers.
On this tree I have your levi Cooper born abot 1827 who married Counselette Hilton, 
 
Do  you  have Levis parents as James Cooper and Harriett?  and if they are then he is related to Samuel Cooper 1794 to 1856  of South Norwood.   
What I cant find is the marriage between Harriett Cooper and George Gladwin. I found them on the 1891 census as you said at 24 Wilford Road Croydon.
Do you have the marriage certificate? or did you get her maiden name from a childs birth certificate?
 

 
This is of interest to this quote posted by Rank Gorger
I've always known I'm of traveller descent, and was wondering if anyone could shed some light on the Coopers that were in the Surrey area (especially Croydon). I think I've tracked my great grandmother as Lavinia Cooper (b. 1893-ish) who married a William Reading. As far as I can make out her mother was Amey/Elvinia Cooper (b. 1855) (both names seem to be used).

If anyone thinks they're connected I'd be interested to hear from you as I have a huge amount of information to share.
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I have a list of christenings and marriages etc from familiar churches round the south east who would entertain the ceremonies of Travellers and there were not very many.
But I have christening record for
the following.
Lavinia Cooper  bap 14 Jan 1892 to John and Alvinia born Sept 1891 Croydon.
Ted Cooper  bap 12 July 1894 to John and Alvina Hawker no fixed abode Croydon Surrey

What you have to remember that very few Romany's could read or write, and it was up to the person who was taking the information to write it down as they heard it. Some accents were very strong so it was a hit and miss in the spelling area!.
 
 I have a 5 page dossier on the Cooper christenings from 1795 to 1904 so far . if anyone wants to ask me if there rellie is on it dont hesitate to ask. The areas involved are mainly Surrey Sussex hampshire .
Wolfe in Kent and America  Australia and New Zealand (Found)
Bullen. in Berks, Stockwell London and New York
Mills in Croydon & Mitcham Gypsy based
Coopers from Croydon, Norwood
THompson  Croydon & Mitcham and Alnwick/ Northumberland
Green in Croydon and Peckham Camberwell
Reed in Peckham could originate in Ireland
Hunt Bushey Herts walworth Peckham  Croydon, Mitcham Gypsy based
Jessop in and around Kent
Taylors Croydon originate from Nottinghill and Acton
Gardner Mitcham

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Re: COOPERS in Surrey area
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 23 July 11 03:24 BST (UK) »
nightnurse51, that would be MUCH appreciated. It sounds like the right one as I received her death certificate a short while ago and it says she was born 11 Sep 1891. I'd be very interested to see your dossier.

The Ted entry puzzles me. I have an Edward with a DOB of 4 Sep 1895.

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Re: COOPERS in Surrey area
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 23 July 11 10:23 BST (UK) »
Hi nightnurse

Yes i have Levi cooper Parents

james cooper b 1790? And Harriet

children Randall cooper b 1820
samuel b 1827
william 1833
jessie 1823. 

Not sure if birth date right for james and harriet.

  My nan told me about the cooper side. Her mother is jane Gladwin whos parents are Harriet cooper and George Gladwin.

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Re: COOPERS in Surrey area
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 23 July 11 10:27 BST (UK) »
Hi night nurse

Forgot to Add I found James and Harriets grave in Queens rd. Buried with their Granddaughter Lenda Lee nee' cooper.  Lenda is sister of My GG-gran harriet cooper who married George Gladwin.

I add graves to my tree.  And i found 3 other cooper graves in Queens. I take photos of graves.

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Re: COOPERS in Surrey area
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 23 July 11 12:05 BST (UK) »
Hi there
Got to go to work now but do you have a marriage record for Harriet and George?
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Wolfe in Kent and America  Australia and New Zealand (Found)
Bullen. in Berks, Stockwell London and New York
Mills in Croydon & Mitcham Gypsy based
Coopers from Croydon, Norwood
THompson  Croydon & Mitcham and Alnwick/ Northumberland
Green in Croydon and Peckham Camberwell
Reed in Peckham could originate in Ireland
Hunt Bushey Herts walworth Peckham  Croydon, Mitcham Gypsy based
Jessop in and around Kent
Taylors Croydon originate from Nottinghill and Acton
Gardner Mitcham