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Re: "South-well" or "Suth-ull"?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 27 May 11 18:34 BST (UK) »
My son reminded me of another one today. Mansfield Woodhouse - Woodus
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Re: "South-well" or "Suth-ull"?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 27 May 11 22:10 BST (UK) »
I used to belong to the "Suthull" school, but after becoming friendly with a native, was converted to the "South-well" camp.

Another one which I've heard, from a little further south: "GranTH - am" or "GranT -ham"
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Re: "South-well" or "Suth-ull"?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 28 May 11 12:26 BST (UK) »
Many years ago, when touring UK, we were constantly bemused by the way locals pronounced place names.   After about a week of this, we came to be looking for a place (don't remember where) and sat and practised the name as we thought people might say it, only to discover that it was pronounced phonetically!   Foiled again.

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Re: "South-well" or "Suth-ull"?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 28 May 11 12:43 BST (UK) »
Not a place name, but My Dad told me that Featherstone-Haugh was pronounced "Fanshawe"
He was Scottish.  There was another one as well, but just can't remember it right now.  Time I was asleep!   :)  Nighty night!

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Re: "South-well" or "Suth-ull"?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 29 May 11 20:11 BST (UK) »
I dont live in Southwell - but as a Notts person know that we acknowledge both Southwell and Suth-all.

I have always believed that those born to the area called it Suth-all and those who have 'moved-in' called it Southwell. It call it Southwell.

Added to this is, I believe, a class 'thing' i.e. what sort of money you have. If you were a middle class professional you would call it Southwell. I know 2 professional people who were not born there, but had the money to buy one of the higher price houses in the 'village' or center, that insist that it is called Southwell!!!!
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Re: "South-well" or "Suth-ull"?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 30 May 11 12:57 BST (UK) »
I'm Nottm born and bred and say "Suthell" but concur the knowledge that dwellers therein call it "South-well".

Maybe we need a thread to capture all this.  For instance "we" say "Fosson" for Foston (near Grantham) and "Illson" for Ilkeston.  I've also heard the uninformed say "Bass-fud" (as in Sea Bass) instead of "Base-fud" for Basford.

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Re: "South-well" or "Suth-ull"?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 30 May 11 13:12 BST (UK) »
Not a place name, but My Dad told me that Featherstone-Haugh was pronounced "Fanshawe"
He was Scottish.  There was another one as well, but just can't remember it right now.  Time I was asleep!   :)  Nighty night!

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« Reply #16 on: Monday 30 May 11 14:53 BST (UK) »
i live just off suthall rd, and my husband is not a local he is from hampshire and he always says southwell, and i always say suthall.

we also used to live in pleasley, which my dad pronouced please-ly but it is definatley pronounced plesley
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Re: "South-well" or "Suth-ull"?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 30 May 11 18:52 BST (UK) »
If we're talking about Lincs place names - what about Cowbit, a village just outside Spalding?   Any guesses before I or another local person tell you? 
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