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Re: Notts Hearth Tax 1664 : 1674
« Reply #45 on: Thursday 10 January 13 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Phil, In case you don't have this information I've also checked the Protestation Returns from 1641/2, and there is only one Loverseed from what I can see. He was living in South Collingham, and appears on the list twice, once at the top under the list of officials as "Robert Loversedes, Churchwarden", and further in the list as "Robert Loverseidge". There is no doubt that it was one Robert and not two.

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« Reply #46 on: Thursday 10 January 13 16:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi Burto,

There are too many Elliots to type out, but I've pulled out the John Elliots:

1664 BINGHAM
John Elyott, 2 hearths, "not chargeable"

1674 CARLTON IN LINDRICK & WIGSTHORPE
John Elliot, 1 hearth

1674 NOTTINGHAM TOWN, SAMUEL SOARESBY DISNARY
John Elliot, 2 hearths

If there is any particular place your Elliots were from I can check to see if there were any Elliots recorded there (other than John).

Alexander

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Re: Notts Hearth Tax 1664 : 1674
« Reply #47 on: Friday 11 January 13 06:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Alexander

Many thanks for the information.  This confirms other facts about the family and once again shows the name variations.  I have tried to pronounce the surname but still have trouble with the ending as "g" and "d" sound quite different to me.  Perhaps the accent at the time produced a sound which was a mixture of the two letters. 

Thanks also for the information contained in the Protestation Returns.  I don't have a copy of this publication but I do have copies of the Churchwarden Presentments for the years 1641 and 1642 which confirm Robert's church function.  Interestingly, Robert's mark was a capital R rather than the more normal cross, on the various documents I have sighted over the years.

Phil



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Re: Notts Hearth Tax 1664 : 1674
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 10 March 13 00:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Phil, In case you don't have this information I've also checked the Protestation Returns from 1641/2, and there is only one Loverseed from what I can see. He was living in South Collingham, and appears on the list twice, once at the top under the list of officials as "Robert Loversedes, Churchwarden", and further in the list as "Robert Loverseidge". There is no doubt that it was one Robert and not two.

Alexander

   Interesting.    Those officials aren't in the Index.  Thanks for pointing this out since I missed Thomas Townerow Overseer who is one of them, and somebody else has posted a request for Townrow.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: Notts Hearth Tax 1664 : 1674
« Reply #49 on: Friday 12 July 13 19:38 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I have just followed a trail that has lead to your offer of a couple of years ago. Does your offer still stand? If so please could you look up any Thurman (Thermon,Thirman, Thorman etc). If there are too many I am especially interested around Thrumpton, East Leake, West Leake, Broughton Sulney, Attenborough, Barton & Wysall.

Thanking you in anticipation.

Best regards,

            Bob

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Re: Notts Hearth Tax 1664 : 1674
« Reply #50 on: Saturday 13 July 13 01:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Bob and welcome to RootsChat.

I can only see 3 Thurmans (& variants). Some of the returns are very badly damaged, such as Broughton below, so there were no doubt other Thurmans for whom no record survives...

1664

BALDERTON GATE, NEWARK TOWN
John Thurman, 1 hearth (not chargeable)

Probably BROUGHTON (unclear because place name torn away)
John Thurman, 1 hearth (2 shillings)

1674

THORPE BY WYSALL
Edward Thorman, 1 hearth


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Alexander

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« Reply #51 on: Saturday 13 July 13 08:11 BST (UK) »
Morning, Alexander, and many thanks for this.

The missing Thurmans are probably as important as the ones mentioned as I am trying to identify family links.
Is it possible to see whether the Wysall returns are complete and therefore the Edward I have in Wysall is actually the Edward from Thorpe by Wysall, as I suspect?

Equally is it possible to see if the Barton in Fabis and Thrumpton returns are complete and therefore the Thurmans that lived there have moved on?

Much appreciated,

Bob

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Re: Notts Hearth Tax 1664 : 1674
« Reply #52 on: Saturday 13 July 13 14:52 BST (UK) »
Bob, not sure if these burials will help at all. Wysall, Holy Trinity
22-11-1666 William Thurman abode Thorpe, notes say  son of Edward.
1680 Edward Thurman notes say date illegible
2-11-1696 Edward Thurman notes- with wife Bathsheba.
2-11-1696 Bathsheba Thurman notes wife of Edward.
One baptism same church
1-6-1655 Edward son of Edward and Bathsheba Thurman.
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley.

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Re: Notts Hearth Tax 1664 : 1674
« Reply #53 on: Saturday 13 July 13 23:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Larkspur,
yes I have these but may check them at Notts Archives next time I go.
The 1666 burial is the reason I am interested in the hearth tax; were Edward & Bathsheba from Wysall or Thorpe? It may help to place the family and give background colour to how the family was spread and moved through Notts.

Regards,
           Bob