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Skipton/Leask, Saskatchewan
« on: Wednesday 01 June 11 06:53 BST (UK) »
I am having an extremely hard time finding a couple of things.
My grandmother was said to have been born in Skipton, Saskatchewan in 1910, then the family grew up in Leask.
I see on internet that there is a Skipton Road in Moosejaw. That cannot be it.
I am also having a real hard time finding her parents and siblings other than in the 1911, 1916 and emmigration crossing USA to Canada in 1909.
Lars (husband) b1870 Norway
Laura (wife) b1880 Norway
George O. b1900 USA
Lewis Oscar b1903 USA
Sigeens b 1905 USA
Hilda b1910 Saskatchewan
Edward b1912 Saskatchewan
Andrew b1914 Saskatchewan
Lloyd ??

I am trying to find Lars andá Laura death registration sometime around 1920; (and George, Lewis, or Sigeens to see where in the USA they were born).
Laura I would like to know what her maiden name was.
I am unable to find if Lars and Laura were married in Norway as family thinks or, in the USA, where the first three children were born.
The Saskatchewan gov't seems to charge $50 for each or any, and from the online vital stats, I am unable to know if I am ordering the right registration.
What help may I recieve?
thanks,
Razzy
 
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Re: Skipton/Leask, Saskatchewan
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 June 11 13:06 BST (UK) »
Could you provide the surnames please

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Re: Skipton/Leask, Saskatchewan
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 June 11 13:12 BST (UK) »
Saskatchewan Gen Web

www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cansk/Saskatchewan/

Under the section on one room schoolhouses there is a Skipton School and it appears that Skipton/Leask are the same place.

You may be able to find other resources at the site to help in your search.


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Re: Skipton/Leask, Saskatchewan
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 June 11 16:19 BST (UK) »
Surnames!!! How did I manage that??
LARSON is the surname,
thanks for that huge oversight!!
On the census', the LARSONS are listed as Congregationalists.
What religion is this, what church today would have their birth, marriage, and death records?
Whose jurisdiction does Leask fall under?
I noticed that for Leask/Skipton, I am to choose subdistrict #10.
On the internet for Leask, I am told that Battleford and Prince Albert are they main cities Leask is associated with. I am unable so far to find the right area to find the right genealogical society for that area.
Where does Leask fit in (under what city) in subdistrict #10?
Thanks,
Razzy
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Re: Skipton/Leask, Saskatchewan
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 June 11 17:23 BST (UK) »
www.ourroots.ca/ has a book on Leask. Don't see a huge amount about your family but you might find some tidbits.
ETA: http://www.ourroots.ca/page.aspx?id=3943738&qryID=6cc6ce8b-0144-40df-a79c-e9a373f0ebff
"her nephew, Ciger Larson"

Did the 1909 border crossing record not give any information about where in the US they came from?

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002100334.pdf
 - this is the image of the 1911 census, I presume.
Head of household is "L P Larson"
I think "Sigeens" might be "Sigur".
Geo. was b. Oct 1900 so he would have missed the census in the US
The exact land location was NE 27-46-5

In 1916 it looks to me like he is "Louis", the last son b. US is more clearly "Sigur" here.
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21941/jpg/31228_4363970-00403.jpg

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/western-land-grants/index-e.html
This shows the NE part of section 27, township 46, range 5, west of the third meridian (which would be near Leask) as homesteaded by "Louis Peder Larson".
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Re: Skipton/Leask, Saskatchewan
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 June 11 18:08 BST (UK) »
This is a big help!
I know now Peders is Lars' middle name.
The book (?) A Lasting Legacy.
Is this the name of the book?
Does this book lead to any cemeteries for this area?
I would like to look at the book thru inter-library loan.

Yes, Sigeens, Sigur, Seguir, Sigeons, Seguer, and now Ciger make finding the key to this puzzle all that more challenging.

The border crossing information seems to say Malone, NY, May 20th, 1909; A036136.
I seem to have misplaced the actual photocopy.
I will have to find it again to ensure the details.
I should clarify, Lars and Laura are my g/grandparents (indirectly) due to marriages.

On the Land Grants it seems Leask is west of Fort Carlton and norh of Young Chipeewayan Indian Reserve, that is about as much clarity as I can see. I am in BC, I would like to go to my library and see if I can find his actual name or other information. Is this possible, or is this information that the Saskatchewan gov't holds exclusively?
 
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Re: Skipton/Leask, Saskatchewan
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 June 11 18:10 BST (UK) »
Hey folks,

Leask is about 45 minutes north of Saskatoon and about 20 minutes Southwest of Shellbrook (where my Grandparent's live), Prince Albert is about 45 minutes east of Shellbrook.  I would believe Skipton was a small district of the rural municipality of Leask, which is how most of the Rural municaplities (or RM's) of Saskatchewan are made up of.


http://www.leask.ca/location.html

Possibly contacting the RM office may lead you to find out if any of your relatives are buried in or around Leask (there are I think 3 in the area, plus an RC church that it still there, not sure about the Congreationalist church though).  As well possibly contacting the Museum in Prince Albert would lend you some clues. **Closest one maybe the United church in the area or in Shellbrook)

As a side note, if you order the $50 genealogical record (birth,marriage,death) you get the long copy of the record (which sometimes includes parents names places of birth, etc.).  They will I believe do a broader search $10 more for every 5 years (not quite sure on that).

Hope this helps,

Jeff

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Re: Skipton/Leask, Saskatchewan
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 June 11 15:48 BST (UK) »
The whole book "A Lasting Legacy" is online:
http://www.ourroots.ca/toc.aspx?id=11416&qryID=e942aabb-7d38-40cd-984e-1ed6de9a5bf1
(although if you prefer hard copy you probably can get it through ILL).

www.footnote.com
 - there are some interesting naturalisation records here under surname "Lerson"
"Louis P Lerson", "quick look" on the NY index shows he was a sailor, Norwegian, b. June 20 1870, arrived 1889, witness name Walter Eldpen.

A Laurits Peter Larsen is listed on familysearch b. 20 Jun 1870 c. 24 Jul 1870 Haram, More Og Romsdal, Norway - parents Lars Petersen and Oline Olaviusdatter; he had sisters Petrine Oline b. 18 Jul 1868 and Anna Marie b. 19 Jun 1872 and a brother Severin Daniel b. 28 Jul 1874.

This is interesting because from the Leask book the aunt of "Ciger Larson" was a Petrine who came to Canada in 1922 aged 54 (e.g. b. around 1868).  She was in Norway until about 1885, and went to South Africa - children of hers mentioned in the book include Harold Johnson (b. 1894) and Johnnie/John/Jack Johnson (arrived in 1907 aged 21), and younger children Phyllis and Cecil (surname probably Ebert).

Here are her arrivals from the Canadian archives site:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/006003/t-15017/jpg/30927_2000901347-03755.jpg
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/006003/t-15017/jpg/30927_2000901347-03759.jpg
"Mrs P Ebert", in 1920, aged 50, joining two sons, and as Petrina in 1924, on her way back from a trip to see her daughters - says she was b. Aalesund which would make sense - ┼lesund is a city and also a region which includes Haram.

And her maiden name in this SA marriage (her second, to Samuel Ebert) is given as "Harham"!
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRANTS-BRITISH/2004-02/1076897458

It is common for Norwegians to take as an alternative to the patronymic name their place of origin (town name or farm name) as a surname.

Tying it all in is this 1900 census record of "Lars and Oline Harham" in which they have a daughter born "Port Natal" in 1883 and a last son b. 1886 in Alesund.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1900&knr=1501&kenr=011&bnr=0005&lnr=01

This is their emigration from Haram in 1882, "Lauritz" b. 1870 with them:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6401&idx_id=6401&uid=ny&idx_side=-319

Here they are being recorded as moving to Alesund in 1886, having returned from South Africa:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=133&filnamn=if15011886&gardpostnr=41&personpostnr=47&merk=47#ovre

And a marriage in 1899 in Alesund between Lauritz Peter Larsen and a Laura Eline Iversen:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=151&filnamn=vi15011894&gardpostnr=332&personpostnr=1986&merk=1986#ovre
(His father's surname is given here as Alvestad which I think might be an area/farm in Haram)

I cannot find this couple in the 1900 census of Norway. Laura Eline Iversen's birth can be found on the familysearch site - putting her in August 1880 which matches with the 1911 Canadian census.

Haven't managed to find their emigration yet, either. It appears that Lauritz/Louis might have travelled back and forth before his marriage, i.e. this looks like him:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=24&filnamn=EMIAALE&gardpostnr=3022&merk=3022#ovre
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Re: Skipton/Leask, Saskatchewan
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 June 11 17:11 BST (UK) »
I have just read your research and must say you are amazing!
I will have to go through all the online sources you copy and pasted.
Lauras' nameá is right as his wife, and family believes they were married in Norway.
Their children George O. born in Oct 1900,
Lewis Oscar born Jan 1903,
Sigeens (spelling?) born May 1905 -all born somewhere in USA;
their next child is Hilda born May 1910 in Saskatchewan.
Thinking New York is the usual port of entry whether Ellis Island but, not always.
I have checked New York and New York Buroughs in the past and I still have not found them or births.
I really am connected to the Lars marrying Laura in Norway.
I will see if I can connect some of the childrens names to family names on either side of Lars or Laura.
I thought I had gone thru familysearch before but maybe new information might have been added.
There are alot of LARSONS in that area of Saskatchewan and it is quite a jump to go from New York after three children and then all the way to Saskatchewan in Canada at a time when the economy may have just started to pick up after the 1890s' recession.
So there may or must have been more than one reason for my family to have made such a long and permanent journey, hopefully to have some sort of support network for when they arrived and to become settled.
However my family does not know.
I was unscuccesful in finding the border crossing that I referred to before. I do not know if Lars arrived first then Laura with children after.
Thanks so much and I hope more information may be found as I never could find in three years what you have found in a few days.
Thanks,
Razzy
Laure (France);
Graham (Cumberland, England/Grahamsfield, Scotland), Taylor (Orkney);
Rogan, Johnston, McKinney, Irwin, Hamilton (Ireland);
Masters (Wiltshire, England).
Houldsworth (Sheffield, Middlesex)