Author Topic: Was John SIMONS father John SYMONS  (Read 4907 times)

Offline JacknSof

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 99
  • 4 Gen of Simons
    • View Profile
Was John SIMONS father John SYMONS
« on: Wednesday 08 June 11 14:28 BST (UK) »
I have my g.g.grandfather William Henry Simons born in Phillack, Cornwall 1847 married to Elizabeth Atack . His parents,  John Simons b 1822  and Elizabeth Kestle.
I would like to confirm John's parents were John Simons or Symons b1783 and Elizabeth Wearne.
There appears to be a lot of John's and Elizabeth's .  ;D
Any assistance would be appreciated.
A positive outlook makes each moment of life a celebration. (Dennis W Felty )

Clarke, - South Aus - Dublin, Ireland
LaVille -  South Aus - Mauritius
Mulhare- South Aus-Queens County, Ireland
Simons,  South Aus - Cornwall
Pacey -   South Aus - ?
Kennedy,Qld, Aus - Belfast,Ireland
Murray -  Qld , Aus - Enniskilln, Ireland
Preston,  Qld, Aus - ?
Krafft  -    Qld, Aus  - Germany

Offline KGarrad

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,084
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Was John Simons father John Symons
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 June 11 14:54 BST (UK) »
1851 census has this:

Reference HO107, Piece 1915, Folio 521, Page 11
Voguebeloth, Illogan, Cornwall

Simons, John  Head  M  29  Copper Miner  b Phillack
Simons, Elizabeth  Wife  F  39  b St Leven
Simons, John  Son  M  9  Scholar  b Phillack
Simons, Grace  Daughter  F  7  b St Ives
Simons, Humphry  Son  M  5  b Phillack
Simons, William  Son  M  4  b Phillack


This looks like their marriage:
September qtr 1841
Redruth district    Vol 9, Page 275

Simons, John
+ and on the same page +
Kestle, Elizabeth

Had no luck on cornwall-opc-database looking for John (junior)'s birth.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

Offline KGarrad

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 26,084
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Was John Simons father John Symons
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 June 11 15:18 BST (UK) »
The PR's for Phillack (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~phillack)

Show a couple of baptisms for John Simons in 1822:

30th June 1822
John Simons
Son of John & Elizabeth
Abode: Hayle Foundry

28th July 1822
John Simons
Son of Moses & Elizabeth
Abode: Glebe Row

28th November 1822
John Simmons
Son of John & Ann
Abode: Angarrack

13th April 1823
John Simons
Son of Francis & Elizabeth
Abode: Lethleans
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

Offline JacknSof

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 99
  • 4 Gen of Simons
    • View Profile
Re: Was John Simons father John Symons
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 June 11 10:40 BST (UK) »
Thank you for these replies.
I believe this is my family in the 1851 Census and the Christening of John Jr in 1822. The ages match up.
Are you able to advise John Snares or Elizabeth Wearne's year of birth and parents names?
I have located an Elizabeth Kestle b.1817 with her father's name John Kestle. I wonder if this is the same Elizabeth that married John.
Thanks again for you assistance and interest.
Kindest regards.
A positive outlook makes each moment of life a celebration. (Dennis W Felty )

Clarke, - South Aus - Dublin, Ireland
LaVille -  South Aus - Mauritius
Mulhare- South Aus-Queens County, Ireland
Simons,  South Aus - Cornwall
Pacey -   South Aus - ?
Kennedy,Qld, Aus - Belfast,Ireland
Murray -  Qld , Aus - Enniskilln, Ireland
Preston,  Qld, Aus - ?
Krafft  -    Qld, Aus  - Germany


Offline Vinod m

  • RootsChat Pioneer
  • *
  • Posts: 1
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Was John Simons father John Symons
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 September 17 00:58 BST (UK) »
1851 census has this:

Reference HO107, Piece 1915, Folio 521, Page 11
Voguebeloth, Illogan, Cornwall

Simons, John  Head  M  29  Copper Miner  b Phillack
Simons, Elizabeth  Wife  F  39  b St Leven
Simons, John  Son  M  9  Scholar  b Phillack
Simons, Grace  Daughter  F  7  b St Ives
Simons, Humphry  Son  M  5  b Phillack
Simons, William  Son  M  4  b Phillack


This looks like their marriage:
September qtr 1841
Redruth district    Vol 9, Page 275

Simons, John
+ and on the same page +
Kestle, Elizabeth

Had no luck on cornwall-opc-database looking for John (junior)'s birth.