Llanfihangel Crucorney marriage Michael/Jones

[RanneFraser]

The first link is actually what prompted me to make the original post. I had read through most of the parishes and Llanfihangel Crucorney wasn't transcribed yet, but i was hoping someone was working on it.

Amusingly, I've read the second link before and never noticed his name lol! Very cool. She probably is buried there then.

[RanneFraser]

"William Jones Cwmerra, born 1789 Tredegar, - Printed memorial biography at NLW in a manuscript history of Monmouth Baptist Chapels."

Any ideas on how to find this?

[osprey]

if it's in manuscript form, it has probably not been published. You can contact the Library to ask if they can copy details.

http://www.llgc.org.uk/index.php?id=4646&

[RanneFraser]

Thank you, good idea!

[lahpun]

Hello from Australia, I found your posts re the family of William Jones and Eunice Davies.  I am interested in the children's names because I have a son named Edwin who came to Australia as a convict and he started the Australian Jones'.   Do you have a son Edwin/Edward/Edmund who due to his convict status does not get mentioned?

Regards
Lu

[RanneFraser]

i personally dont have Edwin, but im also missing three of the children. i only have six out of nine in my tree. I know William and Eunice had three more. in other peoples trees on ancestry, he is listed though. do you have his marriage record to Sophie Elliott or his death record? the problem i see is that Edwin was born in 1808(?), but Eunice and William werent married until 1811. could he have been a few years younger than that? what information do you have for Edwin right now?

[lahpun]

Hello Ranne, Well that is a shame about Edwin.   I copied all my information from you and Osprey!!  I was looking for a William Jones and Eunice Davies and Rootschat came up so I presumed I had hit GOLD!!! 
In the deaths for Edwin in Australia I found an Edwin who died in 1862 with a father William so again presumed William which you have is the same family.

Edwin arrived here as follows:
Edwin Jones
Monmouth Assizes
Sentence term:   Life
Ship:   Lloyds

Departure date:   19th August, 1833

Arrival date:   18th December, 1833
Place of arrival   New South Wales
Passenger manifest   Travelled with 199 other convicts
 
I don't know anymore re Edwin other than he married Sophie Elliott in 1843 and had 8 children.  I have the Australian line but no proof.
I have just found my file on William Jones who was born 1780 Tredegar, Monmouth Wales and died Cwmerra Monmouthshire Wales.  Married 1811  at Llanwenarth Eunice Davies she died August 1860 at Llantillio Crosseney Wales.
They had - Edwin; John, Rachel, Benjamin, Eunice, Elizabeth married Gillbert, and Mary married name Humphrey.  As I said Edwin born 1808 at Glamorgan Wales died in New South Wales.  Came to Australia in 1833 as a convict for house breaking.  Trial : Lent 1833 Monmouthshire.  Originally sentenced to death.  Convicted on March 25, 1833 aged 26.
What I have was researched by a Mr Hartley Australia on Rootsweb but for the life of me I cannot find that entry in message boards. 
Tell me what you think of this!  You may be able to find the entry in Rootsweb, I cant remember but he may have just sent me an email.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Sadly I think Edwin Jones the burglar is no relation of the Joneses of Cwmera

here's a newspaper report of the conviction from the Monmouthshire Merlin of 30 March 1833 - see about halfway down the first column - begins "The Pontypool burglars". It refers to Edwin's siblings James, Samuel and Catherine, all of whom lived in the Pontypool area, where the offences were committed. Quite a way from Llanfihangel Crucorney

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3391785/3391787/5/

[lahpun]

Thank you Marie for your information and the newspaper cutting regarding Edwin Jones.

As I mentioned before, on the NSW death entries in the Register, Edwin's father was a William.  Without purchasing the record which will only show his wife and children and what he died from and date and where he is buried I am at a loss as to where to go from here.
Do you have access to records in Wales?
If Edwin was 22 in 1833 he would have been born in 1811 and James born 1807.  Would you be able to find a record of marriage for a William and births of these children?  Catherine also?   So the previous information I gave about Edwin being born on 16 September 1808 Glamorgan Wales is not the Edwin from the court case???
I would be interested to hear further.
Lesley