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Lew Trenchard, Devon - Army Barracks
« on: Sunday 24 July 11 00:13 BST (UK) »
Evening All,

I was just wondering if anyone might be able to tell me whether there were ever any army barracks either in, or within the vicinity of Lew Trenchard, Devon.

I have an ancestor's birth certificate from 1817 that states that his father - a direct ancestor of mine, was a soldier, and which was registered in Rogate, Sussex.

However, the parents were married the year before (1816) in Lew Trenchard. The father himself was from Rogate, Sussex, and the mother was not of the parish either, thus leading me to believe he may have been stationed nearby.

Any assistance would be much appreciated!

Paul
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Bennett-Co. Down, Ireland
Clisham-Liverpool/Ireland
Cox - Shropshire/Flintshire
Cuddy - Liverpool/Ireland
Dunne - Co. Laois, Ireland
Glue -Sussex
Guest - Staffordshire
Hughes - Co.Laios, Ireland
Jordan - Co.Down, Ireland
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Re: Lew Trenchard, Devon - Army Barracks
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 July 11 01:24 BST (UK) »
hi,,,have you got the fathers records,,,what was his name and when and where was he born ;)
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Re: Lew Trenchard, Devon - Army Barracks
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 July 11 01:48 BST (UK) »
Hi,

No. This is where it's tricky and the reason I'm trying to determine whether there was a barracks/military presense there. Birth cert states he was a soldier, and that's all unfortunately.

Considering local (i.e. Devon) regiments, as well as regiments from his home county, I've the following possibilities:

11th (North Devonshire) Regiment of Foot 1782–1881
20th (East Devonshire) Regiment of Foot 1782–1881
25th (King's Own Borderers) Regiment of Foot 1805–1881
30th (Cambridgeshire) Regiment of Foot 1782-1881
32nd (Cornwall) Regiment of Foot 1782–1858
35th (Sussex) Regiment of Foot 1805–1832
46th (South Devonshire) Regiment of Foot 1782–1881

So, ultimately trying to see which of this might have been posted in the area at the time of the marriage and birth (1816-1817), so I can then look into available Muster Rolls etc.

All very much a long shot at the moment, but not much else to go on....

Paul

 
Arnold - Liverpool
Bennett-Co. Down, Ireland
Clisham-Liverpool/Ireland
Cox - Shropshire/Flintshire
Cuddy - Liverpool/Ireland
Dunne - Co. Laois, Ireland
Glue -Sussex
Guest - Staffordshire
Hughes - Co.Laios, Ireland
Jordan - Co.Down, Ireland
Lancaster - Cumberland
Manion - Liverpool/Galway, Ireland
Pearson - Cumberland
Vallely - Co.Louth, Ireland

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Re: Lew Trenchard, Devon - Army Barracks
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 24 July 11 01:55 BST (UK) »
Sorry....to answer your question though:

Thomas Glue, born c. 1786, Rogate, Sussex

Paul
Arnold - Liverpool
Bennett-Co. Down, Ireland
Clisham-Liverpool/Ireland
Cox - Shropshire/Flintshire
Cuddy - Liverpool/Ireland
Dunne - Co. Laois, Ireland
Glue -Sussex
Guest - Staffordshire
Hughes - Co.Laios, Ireland
Jordan - Co.Down, Ireland
Lancaster - Cumberland
Manion - Liverpool/Galway, Ireland
Pearson - Cumberland
Vallely - Co.Louth, Ireland


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Re: Lew Trenchard, Devon - Army Barracks
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 July 11 15:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Paul

Lew Trenchard is a very small parish some 5 miles north of Tavistock, at no time has there ever been a barracks there.  The population in the early 1800s was less that 160.

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Re: Lew Trenchard, Devon - Army Barracks
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 July 11 16:04 BST (UK) »
HI PABLOC
put up the only census I can find for Thomas Glue born 1786 in1851 he`s down as a Pauper, ag labourer, born  Rogate Sussex.
his wife Harriet is 25 years younger than him. also a pauper born Selbourne  Hampshire the children seem to be of two marriages Glue and Draper!!
The only Military record I can find is Thomas Glue born 1820
at Upmander Sussex. on 1861 Census he is in the Royal navy
on the vessel" Mars "which was anchored overnight in Palermo Bay no ties to the above Thomas Glue that I can see.
  In 1844 at Westbourne sussex I have Thomas Glue
 marrying a Harriett Drapyer (their Spelling)
In jul/aug/sept 1844 obviously the first Thomas.
 NO Contacts ref to any where in Devon most record Sussex and Hampshire sorry nothing positive to report.

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Re: Lew Trenchard, Devon - Army Barracks
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 24 July 11 16:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Pabloc
Addition to my last comments Googled Army Camps in Devon
there were artillery Camps in and around Dartmoor  at Okehampton etc  even before the Prison was built to house
Prisoners of the Napoleonic wars
 But still can`t tie anyone into Devon !!!!



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Re: Lew Trenchard, Devon - Army Barracks
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 July 11 22:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks Dragongirl.

Yes, I have this information thanks. His first wife....Thomasine, my x 4 Great grandmother died in 1840, thus does not feature on the 1841 Census.

I wouldn't rule out the Artillery Camps that you mention though, as I'm only presuming he may have been in an infantry regiment...he may well have been an Artilleryman.

Whilst I have not yet seen the 1817 marriage record, I am told it has her (Thomasine Bray) down as a 'Sorjouner', so not of the Parish.

Perhaps the marriage record might give us an indication of regiment or similar....

Paul
Arnold - Liverpool
Bennett-Co. Down, Ireland
Clisham-Liverpool/Ireland
Cox - Shropshire/Flintshire
Cuddy - Liverpool/Ireland
Dunne - Co. Laois, Ireland
Glue -Sussex
Guest - Staffordshire
Hughes - Co.Laios, Ireland
Jordan - Co.Down, Ireland
Lancaster - Cumberland
Manion - Liverpool/Galway, Ireland
Pearson - Cumberland
Vallely - Co.Louth, Ireland

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Re: Lew Trenchard, Devon - Army Barracks
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 July 11 13:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Paul
 Actually found the Parish record for Thomasina and Thomas
marriage but all it says ;-
thomas glue  to  thomasina bray
5th November 1816 at Lewtrenchard   Devon
 this is trancscribed from the Parish records and obviously
isn`t the original cert
Looking to see if it is possible to view the original,