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margaret rudler
« on: Tuesday 11 January 11 18:21 GMT (UK) »
could anybody help me find any information, census or birth details on my g/g/grandmother margaret rudler, formerley simmons or summons born marach 1841 stepney. i would like to know who or parents were, and if they were on the 1940 census. thankyou very much. :)

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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 18:24 GMT (UK) »
sorry made a mistake, wanted for information on parents 1840-1841 census

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Re: margaret rudler
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 18:30 GMT (UK) »
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census or birth details on my g/g/grandmother margaret rudler, formerley simmons or summons born marach 1841


Did she marry Edward Summons  If so - she could not be "formerly Simmons/Summons"

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Re: margaret rudler
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 18:35 GMT (UK) »
yes, she did marry edward summons, but on malvinia  her daughter marriage certificate, it said simmons, and the tower hamlets bmd office told me sometimes they made mistakes when writing. so ii presume it is summons. thanks :)

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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 18:36 GMT (UK) »
Is this the birth reg you have for her??

Margaret Rudler
Mar qtr 1841
Stepney district
2 434

Have you made an error -and you mean she married Summons?? -not was formerly??

this looks like her baptism
Margaret Rudler
born 31 Dec 1940
baptised 29 Oct 1843
St Anne Limehouse Mx

address Limehouse

parents Richard Rudler and Elizabeth
Richard Rudler's occupation "Eating House Keeper"

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Re: margaret rudler
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 18:39 GMT (UK) »
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formerley simmons or summons


The point I was making is that you were saying her maiden name was Simmons/Summons and asking us to find her with her parents.  We would therefore  have wasted time trying to find census entries under that name when in fact her birth surname was Rudler

 
Margaret Rudler Born 31.12.1840 baptised 29.10.1843 at St Anne Limehouse - parents Richard & Elizabeth.  Richard was an Eating house keeper
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Re: margaret rudler
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 18:53 GMT (UK) »
sorry, if i have got muddled up.  yes it was margaret summons formerley rudler,. i wanted to know about the rudlers, on margaret summons  fathers side the rudlers. thanks for your help,  :)

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 18:57 GMT (UK) »
there is something very strange here

there are Banns read for a marriage
St Mary battersea Surrey
Edward Summons Bachelor (clearly writton as Summons)
Margaret Rudler spinster
both of this parish
25 Nov 1860
2 Dec 1860
9 Dec 1860

then there is a marriage

St Dunstan & All Saints Stepney
26 Dec 1865
John Christmas age 47 widower Occ labourer of 8 East Street father Edward Christmas labourer
Margaret Rudler age 25 SPINSTER of 5 Harrow St father Richard Rudler occupation Pastry Cook
witness Edward Dunn (or Lunn?)
Ann Dunn
all signed

so did the marriage to Edward Summons ever take place???

Why was Margaret still a spinster at the marriage to John Christmas

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Re: margaret rudler
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 19:06 GMT (UK) »
the information i have is my g/grandmother malvinia born feb/1863. mothers name margaret summons fomerley rudler.  father edward summons  barge builder/journeyman. adress at this time 29 causeway limehouse.