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Re: Edward Mostyn THELWELL born 1844
« Reply #27 on: Monday 01 August 11 20:11 BST (UK) »
Bevis was a widower on the 1861 census
Reference RG10, 5651, 90, 9

Alyn View, Burton, Denbighshire
Thelwall, Bevis H  Head  Widower  M  50  County Coroner  b Llanfair
Thelwall, Llewellyn  Son  M  16  Scholar  b Rossett, Denbighshire
Thelwall, John B  Son  M  13 Scholar  b Rossett, Denbighshire

Surely what you have quoted here is the 1871 census (RG 10 ).

The 1861 census is RG 9.

John was three at the time of the 1861 census.

Therefore if Sophia was his mother she cannot have died in 1855.

It seems most likely she died just before the census was taken, in the 1st quarter of 1861, as per gnu's posting.

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Re: Edward Mostyn THELWELL born 1844
« Reply #28 on: Monday 01 August 11 20:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Jennifer.  :)

I think Gen missed the comment that KGarrad added :

Father with more sons in 1871:
Reference RG10, 5651, 90, 9
Alyn View, Burton, Denbighshire

Thelwall, Bevis H  Head  Widower  M  50  County Coroner  b Llanfair
Thelwall, Llewellyn  Son  M  16  Scholar  b Rossett, Denbighshire
Thelwall, John B  Son  M  13  Scholar  b Rossett, Denbighshire

EDIT - Originally thought I was lookin at 1861  :-[


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Re: Edward Mostyn THELWELL born 1844
« Reply #29 on: Monday 01 August 11 21:16 BST (UK) »
Wilcoxon
So no wonder he died in 1892 leaving only £ 28 17s 8d!
Gen in NBL England

Liverpool Mercury  Saturday, August 13, 1892
Mr Bevis H Thelwell coroner of East Denbighshire , an office he had held for upwards of 40 years died at his residence , Rossett. He was a solicitor etc etc.

The Wrexham Advertiser Saturday, March 28, 1885
Inquest before Mr Thelwell , coroner into the death of a child at Minera,

Bevis H Thelwell still held his post for many years, before 1885 there are many inquests that he held in the Wrexham area.
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Re: Edward Mostyn THELWELL born 1844
« Reply #30 on: Monday 01 August 11 21:19 BST (UK) »


Just come to read the terrific whodunnit you have all assembled!

The "back story",  touched on by Maidmarion in Reply 22 and Heather in Reply 25,  is perhaps almost off-topic (and already well known to Gen?);  but if anybody wants to take a look at the related pedigree material in PACF and Powys Fadog,  as copied into the FamilySearch wiki"Community Trees" Welsh pages,  this would be a good point to start browsing:

http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I100324&tree=Welsh

"How are the mighty fallen,  and the weapons of war perished". ;)


Rol




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Re: Edward Mostyn THELWELL born 1844
« Reply #31 on: Monday 01 August 11 21:30 BST (UK) »
In 1851 Bevis Thelwall age 65 occupation Half Pay Commander RN, was staying with his brother the
Reverend Edward Thelwall age 70 at Rectory House Llanbedr.

1841
Stanley Place, Holy Trinity , Chester.
B Thelwall 55 Navy ? N
Mary Thelwall 19 N
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Re: Edward Mostyn THELWELL born 1844
« Reply #32 on: Monday 01 August 11 22:16 BST (UK) »
I'm starting to wonder whether Bevis Heywood had another short-lived wife between Sophia Rebecca and Margaret Hughes.... just a thought.

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UK - Northumberland, County Durham: ANDERSON,   DODD(S), EDWARDS, ELLIOTT/ELLET, FENWICK, GREY/GRAY, HINDMARCH and variants, JORDAN, MOORE, MURRAY, RIPPON, RODDHAM, RYDER-TURNER, SPARK(E)(S), STEWART, TILLEY, TIPLADY, WATSON,
Sheffield: TURNER
Middlesex: RYDER
<br />Aberdeenshire: EDWARDS, BRODIE<br />Angus STEWART, DIXON, PETRIE

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Re: Edward Mostyn THELWELL born 1844
« Reply #33 on: Monday 01 August 11 22:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Gen List Lass,
Let me know if you need any lookups from the Llanbedr PRs.

maidmarion  :)

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Re: Edward Mostyn THELWELL born 1844
« Reply #34 on: Monday 01 August 11 22:31 BST (UK) »
Confirmation of the 1861 death:

Excerpt from the Wrexham and Denbighsire Advertizer, Saturday 23 March 1861

DEATHS
On the 18th inst., at Rossett, in her 38th year, Sophia Rebecca, the wife of Bevis H Thelwall, esq., coroner for the county of Denbigh.


Lots of other refs to the family in the 19th century collection  :)

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Re: Edward Mostyn THELWELL born 1844
« Reply #35 on: Monday 01 August 11 22:52 BST (UK) »
Forget another wife, I've just found where I've made my mistake, and confirmed by gnu. Rebecca Sophia died 1861 just before the census.

Otherwise the tree is solid.


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UK - Northumberland, County Durham: ANDERSON,   DODD(S), EDWARDS, ELLIOTT/ELLET, FENWICK, GREY/GRAY, HINDMARCH and variants, JORDAN, MOORE, MURRAY, RIPPON, RODDHAM, RYDER-TURNER, SPARK(E)(S), STEWART, TILLEY, TIPLADY, WATSON,
Sheffield: TURNER
Middlesex: RYDER
<br />Aberdeenshire: EDWARDS, BRODIE<br />Angus STEWART, DIXON, PETRIE