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Anne BARNES - Shaw Green
« on: Thursday 11 August 11 23:20 BST (UK) »
Hello Rick and the rest of you Herts researchers.

I'm struggling! Anne Barnes Nee Dilley born Rushden Herts aged 52 was living at Hines Cottages Shaw Green Wallington 1881 census. I've been looking for her death registration (FreeBMD) without success in Royston; Hitchin; Hertford RDs. Also Herts Beds and Cambs.

I know she married c. 1847 and had about 10 children. Her husband Thomas died in Wallington Union Workhouse c.1904 and I think he lived in Hines Cottages almost until he died  having taking the property on in 1846 after his parents passed on.

Could somebody please establish whether Anne was alive in 1891 and/or 1901. Either living in Wallington/Rushden or visiting one of her children.

Obviously if you can spot the death record I'd be ecstatic.

Cheers Benzol
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Re: Look-up Anne Barnes - Shaw Green
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 11 August 11 23:38 BST (UK) »
In 1891 - both Ann & Thomas were alive and well and living in Hines Cottages Wallington with sons George 25 Charles 23 and Thomas 17

RG12 Piece 1100 Folio 120 Page 5
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Re: Look-up Anne Barnes - Shaw Green
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 August 11 07:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks Carol, was Anne shown as agd 62?

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Herts Barnes/Baines Bottom(s) Dawson Odell (Pirton, Sandon)
Somerset Bull Churchill Ferguson Palmer (Crewkerne, Misterton)
Scotland McNaughton Douglas Archer Robertson (Perth)

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Re: Look-up Anne Barnes - Shaw Green
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 August 11 08:45 BST (UK) »
Hi

Thomas shown as       72 70
Ann       shown as           68

The 70 is in the box to the right of Thomas' age, in the female column above Ann's age.   ???

So in full
1891 RG12/1100/120 page 5, Herts, Wallington(Buntingford, N.Herts), District 11, Page 2
Thomas 72 AgLab       b Rushden
Anne 68                     b Rushden
George 25 Painter        b.Wallington  (Deaf & Dumb)
Charles 23 Blacksmith  b.Wallington
Thomas 17 AgLab        b.Wallington


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Re: Look-up Anne Barnes - Shaw Green
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 August 11 09:00 BST (UK) »
Christenings of children of Thomas and Ann in Wallington as they appear on Record Pilot

Emma 13th august 1854
Noah 20th september 1857
George 3rd september 1865
James 9th May 1852
William 24th february 1850
Sarah Ann 2nd april 1871
John 8th june 1862
Thomas 7th june 1874
Charles 3rd may 1868
Mary 18th september 1859
so....10 children as you stated....
3rd October 1847 the marriage of Thomas Barnes to Ann Dilley , Wallington ...extracted record
hope this helps
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Re: Look-up Anne Barnes - Shaw Green
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 August 11 09:16 BST (UK) »
Hi

1901 Rg13/1291/94/page18, Hertfordshire, Wallington, District 7, Page 5
Thomas 84 Widower Aglab b Rushden
George  33              Aglab B Wallington

Looks like same dwelling or very close

Death Possibles? .....................

Ann Barnes
Mar 1899
Age at Death 68
Registration district - Biggleswade Volume 3b Page 235

Ann Barnes
Jun 1897
Age at Death 80
Registration district - Watford Volume 3a Page 300

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Re: Look-up Anne Barnes - Shaw Green
« Reply #6 on: Friday 12 August 11 11:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ray and Garstonite,

The baptismal dates are useful. I knew of all the children but didn't have Christenings. Can everybody see this data you found - on the Internet? Does it contain burials too?

The census details were good although the ages were a bit iffy. Thomas was born c 1815/16 and Ann c. 1830/31. I do know now that Ann died after 1891 and before 1901. Some Ancestry Family Trees show 1895 but without provenance; I'm a sceptical sort of chap!

The deaths were the real problem for me. I think we can exclude the Watford RD Ann Barnes. Too old and nowhere near Wallington/Sandon. The Biggleswade RD is of more interest, although I'm unable to find any of Thomas/Annes' children living at an address near Biggleswade. However, the town is almost as close to the villages as Royston. I guess the death registration could have happened in Biggleswade. (just 7/8 miles up the A1 from Baldock).

I looked at the 1881 census for a suitable Bedfordshire Anne Barnes. Nothing obvious popped out. So the Biggleswade Anne may be my lady. Think I better make a visit to Hertford and look at the Wallington/Rushden burials.

I looked at FreeBMD and did see the Biggleswade RD death. I looked at the original but it was typed not manuscript and so not particularly helpful - typos. Are there any other computerised BMDs?

Anyway thanks again for your efforts. If anything else springs to mind........!

Cheers Benzol
Herts Barnes/Baines Bottom(s) Dawson Odell (Pirton, Sandon)
Somerset Bull Churchill Ferguson Palmer (Crewkerne, Misterton)
Scotland McNaughton Douglas Archer Robertson (Perth)

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Re: Look-up Anne Barnes - Shaw Green
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 August 11 12:22 BST (UK) »
Hiya Benzol...I went to
Familysearch.org
then search - then Record Pilot - then put in
Barnes
christenings
location - wallington ,hertfordshire
I did check for burials and there was a James Barnes in 1848 which could possibly be a first child of Thomas and Ann seeing as they married in 1847 and the first christening is 1850...
but...I only checked Wallington
if you think of another village - have a look yourself....good luck
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Re: Look-up Anne Barnes - Shaw Green
« Reply #8 on: Friday 12 August 11 12:31 BST (UK) »
Is this your Ann Dilley christening ?

8th august 1830  Rushden ,Hertford, .......parents George and Elizabeth Dilley

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