Alexander McGregor of Stornoway

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Note the 1851 Census, Achonachie, Urray, my Reply # 6

I've now checked the original image rather than a transcript and get this:

William McGregor, hd, mar, 65, Farmer employing 5 men, b. Ross-shire, Gairloch
Hellen, wife, mar, 51, b. Ross-shire, Lews Islands
Mary, d, u, b -do-
Alexr, s, u, b. -do-
Margaret, d, u, 15, b. -do-
George, s, u, b. -do-
William correct over to Helen, d, u, 1o, b. -do-
William, s, u, 6, b. -do-
Cristina Cameron, visitor, widow, 28, excise officer's widow, b. -do-
Agnes -do-, visitor, 7, b. Aberdeenshire, Kincardine
William -do-, visitor, 6, b. Ross-shire, Urray
John -do-, visitor, 1 month, b. -do-
plus 5 servants




gnu

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Christina and children in 1861:

8 Bridge Street, Inverness

Christina Cameron, 38, small ware merchant employing ?, b. Stornoway
Agnes, 17, b. Kincardine Oneil, Abdn
William, 15, b. Aboyne, Abdn
John A, 10, b. Urray, Ross-shire
Ellen Mcgregor, niece, 4, b. Ord (Muir of ord), Ross-shire
Hannah Macleod, 21, domestic servant, b. Ross-shire


gnu

[carna]

Hi Gnu,

Thanks for all that.
These repeated names start to get confusing. Families these days have such unusual names, they will be easy to place in the future.

I am still struggling to contact Robert Russell through these email address? ?

I hadn't seen those links. Fascinating!

If the information in Scottish Archive Network is classed as open, does that mean it can be viewed on the internet or only in the offices in Scotland?

I don't know Scotland at all. Are the places mentioned on the Isle of Lewis or the mainland, e.g. Fodderty, Gairloch, Urray, Achonachie etc

Sorry I keep asking so many questions but I am getting a great Scottish history lesson along the way. Thanks . . . .
Also, what are the Highland Clearances? and what did a Tackman do?

Grateful,
Carna

[Gadget]

Hi Carna

Stornoway and Barvas are on Lewis and the others are on the mainland. This map might help:

http://scotlandsfamily.com/parish-map-caithness.htm

I think I sent you links to Streetmap of some of the places in a PM.
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I think you would have to go to Edinburth to read the papers or maybe ask a professional genealogist - maybe a Rootschatter might be going

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It's difficult to explain the Highland Clearances in a brief posting so here's wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Clearances

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 Ditto Tacksman -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacksman

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Some more on Alexander's sister, Christina and her offspring:

Marriage Urray 22 June 1865 Agnes Cameron and A(lexander) Mackintosh

I think Agnes must have died:

1881
Teanich House, Alness, R & C
Alexander Mackintosh, 41, East India merchant, b. Daviot, Inverness
Lilian, wife, 22, b. England
Ida, 12, b. Alness
Winifred, 10, b. Wales
Evelina, 10 months, b. England
Christina Cameron, visitor,  57, b. Barvas,  Ross-shire
plus 5 servants

1891
3 Claerendon Terrace, Kemp Town, Brighton, Sussex
RG12/803/132/8-9

Alexander Mackintosh, 52, Official Receiver in Bankruptcy, b. Scotland, Inverness
Lilian, 32, b. Ashton under Lyne
Aeneas, 24, b. Scotland, Inverness-shire
Winifred E (?), 20, b. Wales, Dollgelley
Eveline, 10, b. Middlesex, Islington
Lilian V, 9, b. Scotland Ross-shire
Muriel, 3, b. Sussex, Brighton
Plus a governess and 4 other servants

Birth 16 Jan 1867, Alness Aneas Macintosh s/o Alexander macintosh and Agnes Cameron

Birth 10 Sept 1869, Alness Christina Ida Mackintosh d/o Alexander Mackintosh and Agnes Cameron

Birth Reg - Sept q, 1870, Dolgelly,  Winifred N Mackintosh 11b 428A (also a Neta Winifred on p 428 - maybe a correction)


Birth Reg - June q, 1880, Kensington, Eveline Mackintosh 1a 174

Marriage Reg - June q, 1879, Wandsworth, Alexander Mackintosh and Lilan Rogers are on the same page 1d 923

Can't find a death for Agnes in E & W or Scotland. nearest is Wigan in 1878 byt she is listed as 28



gnu

[carna]

Hi Gnu,

Thanks again.

Poor Christian seems to have had a lot of tragedy in her life, losing her husband and daughter.

Thanks for those links. Will have to take more time to study them to fully understand.
I did look at the maps you sent on the links. Thought they were on the mainland.

I will have to read most of this a few times for it all to sink in.

Thanks,
Carna

[Gadget]

Just found this, so Agnes died after 1871

1871

21 Cedar Road, Clapham, London
RG10/695/8/10
Alexr MacKintosh, 35, no occ listed, b. Scotland
Agnes, 27, b. -do-
Aneas, 4, b. -do-
Ida, 2, b. -do-
Neta, 9 months, b. Wales
Christina Cameron, widow,  48, b. Scotland

plus 3 servants

They seem to be pretty wealthy!

I've got to go take some photos of Russian doll for a book cover now 


gnu

[MJHS1]

Hi,

I was pleased to stumble across Carna's query and gnu's comprehensive research results.

I am sorry that I did not spot this thread sooner, as I think that I could have saved you a lot of time and trouble!

I too am a descendant of William MacGregor and Helen Gillanders, through their daughter Margaret.

I have been in touch with Robert Russell, in Sydney, who has compiled a very comprehensive family tree for the descendants of William MacGregor and Helen Gillanders. I'll send Carna a private message with Robert's current e-mail address.

FYI, the following is an extract of Alexander MacGregor's descendants family tree:


3   Alexander MacGregor b. Circa 1833/4 at Stornaway, Isle of Lewis, Scotland emigrated to Australia 1852. d. 1911 Hill End, Mudgee NSW. At Eureka Stockade
Ballarat in 1854 married Grace Morton in 16 May 1856 Ballarat, Victoria Grace MORTON b. 20 Mar 1836 Auchinleck, Ayreshire, Sct d. 1858 Victoria
   4   Mary McTurk McGREGOR b. 1856 Magpie, Victoria d. 1927 Paterson, New South Wales m. 16 May 1877 Jemini, Near Smythesdale, Vic Francis BRINNAND b. 11 May 1855 Moonee Ponds, Victoria d. 28 Oct 1916 Tibooburra, New South Wales
Francis and Mary travelled the outback with their family and a Bullock team. They settled in Broken Hill, NSW. They lived a 'pioneering life'. Died... while riding his horse, he put his lighted pipe in his pocket and set himself on fire...he didn't survive! News article on file
      5   Grace BRINNAND b. 1878 Scarsdale, Victoria d. ? m. 1905 New South Wales Francis N. THOMAS d. 1910 New South Wales m. 1915 New South Wales William Burnett BEAL Scarsdale is in the Ballarat area.
      5   Florence May BRINNAND b. 1880 Wycheproof, Victoria d. 1881 Timor, Victoria
      5   Francis William BRINNAND b. 16 Feb 1884 Nymagee, New South Wales d. 1952/53 New South Wales m. JAN? 1917 Broken Hill, New South Wales Alma KIESEWETTER b. 29 Jan 1896 Eudunda,    South Australia d. JUN 1988 Manly Vale Cemetery, New South Wales Australia
      5   Florence May BRINNAND b. 1886 Wilcannia, New South Wales. d. 1914 aged 27. Carlton, Victoria m. John Thomas CALLAGHAN 1913 Victoria
      5   Myrtle H. BRINNAND b. 1892 Wilcannia, New South Wales d. .m. 1915 Broken Hill. New South Wales William HICKS. b. ABT 1892 - d. BEF 1992 - Marriage: 1915 NSW, Australia
      5   Gladys BRINNAND b. 1895 Wilcannia, New South Wales d. . m. 1921 New South Wales Parkes G. LUCAS Died childless.
      5   Maud M.E. BRINNAND m. 1906 Broken Hill, New South Wales John H. DARBY
   4   William McGREGOR b. 1858 Magpie, Victoria
3   Alexander remarried Margaret Lonergan 24 January 1873 d. 24 Apr 1911 Hargreaves NSW Children:
NOTE: Children from first marriage were still in Victoria.
   4   Thomas Alexander 1873 (Twin) (Died 1874)
   4   William Glendyres [Gillanders] 1873 (Twin) d. 1941 Granville NSW – No Issue
   4   Ellen 1876
   4   Mary 1878 md 1902 to Christopher G. Keeley
   4   Bridget Margaret b.1880 d. 1918 md 1903 James Cashman
   4   Lucy Gillanders. b. 1882 md. 1916 Emil(y) Sutton
   4   Grace b. 1887 d. 1928
   4   Christina M 1891 md. 1911 Orlando Kennedy at Grafton
   4   Reens (adopted ?? b. circa 1894) md 1912 Woollahra
to William Morgan
   4   Hanora 1894 md. William H Edwards
   4   Sylvia Alice Mary 1898 md. Richard Brennan


We are still trying to confirm William MacGregor's ancestry and should be grateful for any further information.

Family lore says he was the son of Rory Buidhe MacGregor and a MacKenzie widow from Gruinard. Rory Buidhe was one of James Roy MacGregor’s sons and grandson of Rob Roy MacGregor.

William apparently inherited South Galson Farm, Lewis, in about 1820 from one of the cousins of his MacKenzie half brother. We still have been unable to determine who this was.

We do, however, have a letter from Mary Frederika Macgregor, one of William’s grand-daughters, which refers to a Col Lewis MacKenzie being one of William's stepbrother. Lewis is reported to have been a Governor at the Cape; married a Dutch girl and died out there. Unfortunately, we have been unable to identify him.

William Macgregor undoubtedly had close connections with the Seaforth Mackenzies. A number of his letters survive.

William and Helen’s grave is in the Conon Old Cemetery. See http://gravestones.rosscromartyroots.co.uk/picture/number13455.asp

Regards

Mike

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Galson (?)

Galson is the anglicised version of Gabhsann, a small village on the north-west coast of Lewis (Leodhas).

http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NB4359
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NB4459
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NB4358
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NB4458

'Deas' is Gaelic for 'south' and 'tuath' means 'north'. So, North Galson and South Galson.

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Eca (?), Victoria

Echuca, perhaps?