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Baptist Record for John Tudor abt 1807 Clyro ?
« on: Wednesday 31 August 11 15:26 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am trying to find a baptist record for a John Tudor born abt 1807

Clyro Census information
1841 b 1810 not of this parish
1851 b 1806 Michaelchurch
1861 b 1801 Clyro
1871 b 1808 Michaelchurch

He married Ann Sermon/Surman in 1833 both of the parish of Michaelchuch-On-Arrow they were married by banns with the consent of there parents  in the presents of Herbert Watkins and Ann Hobby.

Powys Archives have done a search for the baptism for John with no success, in the parish and the Bishops Transcript records but I think that this was for Michael-On-Arrow area only I believe that there were 2 churches in this area.

Could anyone point  in the right direction with local knowledge of this area to which records I could search next.

Thank you Margp
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Re: Baptist Record for John Tudor abt 1807 Clyro ?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 August 11 18:18 BST (UK) »
I forgot to mention that the nearest baptist record I have for a John Tuder is

John Tudor baptized 15 Sept 1806
Bodenham Hereford
Father James
Mother Ann Prosser

Could this be him?

Margp
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Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Baptist Record for John Tudor abt 1807 Clyro ?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 September 11 17:27 BST (UK) »
I think that could be him; however you refer to a Baptist record. If you meant a baptism that is one thing, and my previous remarks stand. If you meant a record from the Baptist Church, quite strong in Wales, then there would be no record of an infant baptism. In this church baptisms are done by total immersion on consenting adults.
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Re: Baptist Record for John Tudor abt 1807 Clyro ?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 September 11 18:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Redroger

Thank you for your reply, it was a christening record I was referring too, they are both the same in England I think, pardon my ignorance, would you say that he was born in Clyro and they went to Bodenham to have him christened.

Thanks again Marg
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Baptist Record for John Tudor abt 1807 Clyro ?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 September 11 18:15 BST (UK) »
Hello Margp

This web site may help,genuki clyro.The Baptist Parish Records maybe at the NLW

Kind Regards

omega
Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Baptist Record for John Tudor abt 1807 Clyro ?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 September 11 18:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Omega

I am a member of NLW I have search all the Clyro records there and at Powys Archives with no success, the only one that comes close is the one I posted earlier.

Margp
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Baptist Record for John Tudor abt 1807 Clyro ?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 September 11 18:39 BST (UK) »
Hello Margp

Sorry i was`nt any help.I have read somewhere that some Baptist Records were kept in private hands.

I know looking my lot is like looking for a needle in a Haystack.

One lot of Parish Records from Pembrokeshire are at the Cardiff Archives.Why,i dont know.

Good luck with your search

omega
Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Baptist Record for John Tudor abt 1807 Clyro ?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 September 11 18:43 BST (UK) »
If I have caused confusion by mentioning the baptist church then I apologise. It was not unknown for children to be baptised in the mother's home parish. Was this Bodenham by any chance? That would be a pointer
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Re: Baptist Record for John Tudor abt 1807 Clyro ?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 September 11 19:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Redroger

The possible parents of John Tudor born in Bodenham are James Tudor and Ann Prosser who married in Marden Hereford in 1803, and not knowing the area I am not sure how this relates to Bodenham, and there may be a connection with the Prossers, I already have some Prossers on my tree  married to the Jenkins side of the family I need to check that out to if they are linked in someway.

Hi Omega

Thank you for your input, I am very grateful to you both

Margp
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich