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Redding - Saskatchewan and Victoria BC -COMPLETED
« on: Wednesday 31 August 11 22:20 BST (UK) »
My great aunt was Pleasant Wells born in Chesham Buckinghamshire in 1866. She married Nathan Reading in 1886 and had four children Ralph, Sarah,Florence, and Elsie.
In 1903, they emigrated to Canada. from then on they seem to have adopted the alternative Redding spelling of their surname.
I have traced them through passenger records and have seen their Homestead file. Both Nathan and his son Ralph had separate homesteads, and I have been able to trace them on the 1906, 1911, and 1916 Prairie census.
Apart from some members of the family crossing over into the US on 24th Dec 1916, I know nothing further of this branch of the family except for the deaths recorded in Victoria. Pleasant died on 24 June 1949, and her daughter Elsie Price on 26 Feb 1972, and both are buried in Royal Oak Burial Park, Falaise Drive, Victoria.
I would be grateful for any information about the family, and what happened to them after 1916.
Thanks.
Redding/Reading - Chesham, Bucks,Saskatchewan, Victoria BC
Wells, Newton, Bowden, Penn, Aris, Thompson,  Birch (all Bucks)
Lardner -Gloucs
Clarke, Grafton Clarke, -Stamford. Lincs
Hadfield - Derbyshire
Shinton - Monmouthshire
Dorey, Whittington - Sussex

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Re: Redding - Saskatchewan and Victoria BC
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 September 11 03:08 BST (UK) »
Weren't Nathan's parents John & Sarah married as Redding? It may have been determined more by the record keepers spelling...
Great that you have found them on census and have told us that, but if you post them we can see the ages of the people we are searching for, and the location... Also you never said who went to the U.S. so that we don't bother looking fort them in Canada.....and are you searching for them in the U.S.?
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=24870

Just as an example of information left out...they are in Saskatoon 1911, are they still there in 1916?
We have a rootschatter who lives in Saskatoon, perhaps he might find more for you...
 
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Re: Redding - Saskatchewan and Victoria BC
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 01 September 11 03:19 BST (UK) »
There is this death Victoria as well, Feb.3 1983 for Rose Dorothy Violet Boyd age 69
b. Dec.23  1913, Laura, Saskatchewan
parents Ralph Redding & Alma Swanson / spouse Joseph Arthur Boyd
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MN5L-B7H/p1

I see her and her sister Alma Brigitia Redding b. 1914 crossing border into Minnesota in 1916 with parents Ralph & Alma
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/KPV4-PW2/p1

Wife Alma age 32/ c.1884 Bricken, Sweden
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/24T8-D6Z/p1
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Re: Redding - Saskatchewan and Victoria BC
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 September 11 14:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the information JJ. Sorry - this was my first posting, so will try to be a bit more precise!
I am not sure about the spelling - it is probably a bit of a red herring, but I do know that Nathan used Reading on his marriage certificate when he married Pleasant Wells in Chesham in 1886.

More importantly, the census information I have from the 1916 Prairie Census is here.
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1916/001100-119.02-e.php?&document_id_nbr=1257&page_sequence_nbr=1&interval=20&&img_type=pdf&page_id_nbr=11438&&&&PHPSESSID=ni3dhb7kfdahd46lck1habpqq6

This shows:
Nathan Redding age 50
Pleasant Redding his wife age 50
Florence Redding daughter age 23
Elsie Redding daughter age 21

Ralph Redding, Nathan's son appears on the same page. He is now married to Alma with the children you mention.
Ralph Redding Age 28
Alma Redding age 31
Alma B age 3
Dorothy V age 2

Nathan and Pleasant also had a daughter Sarah Kate Redding b.1890(est) who appears as Kate Redding on the 1906 Sask. Census but then no more, so would be interested to find out what happened to her.
 
I believe that the family remained in the same location from their arrival through to 1916. The location is Section 34 Township 34 Range 10  W3 and this is the same in 1906 and in 1916, although the name is Loganton, Sask. In 1906, and Perdue in 1916.

The people who travelled to the US were:
Nathan Redding -51
Pleasant Redding-50            (death registered 24 Jun 1949 in Victoria BC)
Florence Daisy Redding-23
Elsie Redding-21     ( m. Henry Goodliff Price, and her death is registered 26  Feb 1972 in Victoria BC)

Ralph Redding -29
Alma Redding -32
Rose Dorothy Redding -2  (m. Joseph Arthur Boyd, and her death is registered 3 Feb 1983 in Victoria BC)
Alma Brigitia -4

They travelled on 24 Dec 1916 and crossed into the US at Noyes. Could this have been a Christmas break and did they return shortly after back to Saskatchewan, or did they settle?
Redding/Reading - Chesham, Bucks,Saskatchewan, Victoria BC
Wells, Newton, Bowden, Penn, Aris, Thompson,  Birch (all Bucks)
Lardner -Gloucs
Clarke, Grafton Clarke, -Stamford. Lincs
Hadfield - Derbyshire
Shinton - Monmouthshire
Dorey, Whittington - Sussex

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Re: Redding - Saskatchewan and Victoria BC
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 01 September 11 19:31 BST (UK) »
Oh, dear, welcome to rootschat, I did miss that you are new... ;D  I am sure you can see the confusion as to how much is known when the questions are vague...

We do have a resource and database for BMD in Sask. but unfortunately marriages are not done yet.
http://www.isc.ca/VitalStatistics/Genealogy/vsgs_srch.aspx

Perhaps our local man might be so kind as to look for a marriage for Sarah Kate sometime after the 1906 census... All we can rely on is newspaper information after a certain date as privacy laws in Canada keep information well within a century and each Province has its own parameters for release within that range.
If Jeffster can find them in the Saskatoon area beyond your 1916 census information, great...

I just don't see  evidence offhand (1920/1930 census) that they stayed in the U.S....so perhaps they were visiting relatives in the U.S. and ,maybe even the elusive other sister...

I'll ask our very helpful Jeffster if he has time to help  ;D
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Re: Redding - Saskatchewan and Victoria BC
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 01 September 11 21:13 BST (UK) »
http://bccfa.islandnet.com/bccfa-search.php Nathan is not buried with Pleasnat so he may have died in Saskatchewan and she moved out there to be with Elsie?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MNPB-RKJ/p1

I don't see a Joseph Arthur Boyd nor Rose Boyd but buried near Pleasant Redding is a Rosa Reading...

also a Euphemia Ann Reading  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/MNPB-RKJ/p1
( See marriage Dec Q. 1875 Shiffnal dist. Thomas Reading &  Euphemia Ann Lowe, in case they are related)
But I just remembered you are more interested in Wells...


Esie's husband Henry in 1911 Saskatoon...so there is likely a marriage in those not yet available vital stats...
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=25657&highlight=32
 
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Re: Redding - Saskatchewan and Victoria BC
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 01 September 11 21:49 BST (UK) »
Yikes I thought I'd checked Woodlawn Cemetery
 http://www.saskatoon.ca/DEPARTMENTS/Infrastructure%20Services/Parks/Woodlawn%20Cemetery/Documents/r.txt
REDDING, ALMA MATHILDA  Jan 11 1975                                       
REDDING, RALPH  Jan 19 1978
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Re: Redding - Saskatchewan and Victoria BC
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 September 11 22:04 BST (UK) »
Interesting...as it is the name Rose & Redding...and there was no Rose Redding on the 1911?
http://www.wdmprairiegamble.com/familyhistory/
DOCTORS – Dr. A.K. Cameron arrived in Delisle by bicycle in 1908. He served a 20 mile radius of Delisle going to homes by many means of transportation and in any weather when called upon. Two nursing homes went into operation, one run by Nurse Rose Redding from 1912-1940, ..."
There was a Samuel Reading in the same area of Sask, but they originated in Ontario
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Re: Redding - Saskatchewan and Victoria BC
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 September 11 23:51 BST (UK) »
Wow – that's fantastic! So glad to find Ralph's death, and know he stayed in that area.Many thanks.
Now, I don't think Euphemia is connected. She appears in Cheltenham on the 1901 census as a widow, and I know of no Shifnal connections at present.
I did find on the BCCFA data base an Arthur J Boyd as the possible husband of Rose Dorothy Violet Redding. It's difficult to be sure without some dates.
Rose Redding, daughter of Ralph was born in 1913 so I don't think she is the nurse.
I have stumbled across another possible connection with the family. Perhaps this could be  the link to Samuel in Ontario too?  This is an Ocean Arrival, arriving in Quebec dated 1920 listed by Ancestry as Jas. E. Redding, although on the document it looks like John E Redding aged 36 from Chesham, Bucks, which as Nathan Redding's birthplace, makes me wonder whether there is a connection.
The second document is a border Crossing from Canada to the US, on 24th Nov 1916, also John Redding aged 32, where he gives St Thomas, Ontario as his last address and his brother Henry Redding as a named relative.
There are further entries, and other Reddings with links close to Chesham back in the UK.

I am planning to now have a look at the Redding family back in Chesham to see if I can find  any connection.
Redding/Reading - Chesham, Bucks,Saskatchewan, Victoria BC
Wells, Newton, Bowden, Penn, Aris, Thompson,  Birch (all Bucks)
Lardner -Gloucs
Clarke, Grafton Clarke, -Stamford. Lincs
Hadfield - Derbyshire
Shinton - Monmouthshire
Dorey, Whittington - Sussex