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Purves /Berwick on Tweed
« on: Saturday 03 September 11 06:53 BST (UK) »
Could anyone help me solve a puzzle.  I am looking for the parents of Jane Robertson my 4x Great Grandmother b 1783/4 in Scotland.She married William Purves b 1788, shoemaker, Berwick on Tweed,Northumberland. On the 1851 census for England the family is listed as ...........

William Purves   head   63   Formerly shoemaker   b Berwick
Jane Purves     wife      67                                       b Scotland
John Purves      son      23   Shoemaker                 b Berwick
Allan   Purves    son      16    Paper  Packer?        b Berwick

Other children left home /married.
Ann b1818   m Alexander Hope
William b 1812  m Jane Hedley
Alex b 1836
Jane  b 1810
 James   b 1818
Margaret  b 1814

I did have a record of a Jane Robertson b 1789 Cupar Fife,but I have since learned from a descendant of her family in Australia that this is not the case.The descendant has a family bible with this family`s members recorded in it .Also the birth dates don`t` match up.So I am pretty sure she is not mine.
Unfortunately the birth place given is Scotland ,which is not really helpful.
I have found two Jane Robertsons  for 1783/4 ,one in Ayton , Berwickshire.the other in Perth.
Any help would be much appreciated

Evelyn   

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Re: Purves /Berwick on Tweed
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 September 11 08:58 BST (UK) »
From your 1841 census info the birth years calculate ten years earlier?
William Purves   head   63   - b. 1777/8
Jane Purves     wife      67   - b.  1773/4

What's your source for their birth years?
I take it that's the 1841 census  England as it just states Scotland for Janes birthplace?
Marks (cornwall, devon), Pennie (stirlingshire),
Robertson (perthshire, scotland), Swanston (roxburghshire, berwickshire)

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Re: Purves /Berwick on Tweed
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 September 11 15:36 BST (UK) »
bairn 359

Apologies , typo error. it should read 1851.

Thanks for pointing it out, have corrected the info
 Evelyn

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Re: Purves /Berwick on Tweed
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 September 11 17:11 BST (UK) »
Here's some possibles for Jane Robertson's birth

Jane Robertson c.31 Aug 1783 Cargill f.John Robertson
Jean Robertson c.2 Feb 1783 Cabrach f.Alexander Robertson mo.Jean Leslie
Jean Robertson c.18 Jul 1783 Dumfries f. William Robertson
Jean Robertson b.18 Dec 1783 Edinburgh f. James Robertson mo.Jean Hastie
Jean Robertson c.28 Dec 1783 Rathven f. Wm. Robertson mo.Jean Sellar
Jean Robertson b.1 Feb 1784 Aberlour f.John Robertson mo.Janet McDonald
Jean Robertson b.11 Mar 1784 Edrom f. John Robertson
Janet Robertson b.7 Mar 1783 Paisley f. James Robertson mo. Margaret Jamison
Janet Robertson c.29 Sep 1783 Denny f. John Robertson mo. Janet Robertson
Janet Robertson b.25 Oct 1783 Paisley f. John Robertson mo. Jean Johnston
Janet Robertson c.28 Sep 1783 Blair Atholl f.Alexr. Robertson mo.Margt. Robertson
Janet Robertson b.19 Dec 1783 Dunfermline f.Alexander Robertson mo. Janet Anderson
Janet Robertson c.12 Dec 1784 Blair Atholl f.Alexr. Robertson mo.Janet Mclauchlen
Marks (cornwall, devon), Pennie (stirlingshire),
Robertson (perthshire, scotland), Swanston (roxburghshire, berwickshire)

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Re: Purves /Berwick on Tweed
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 September 11 17:23 BST (UK) »
Well Jane was still alive at the time of the 1851 census so maybe you could get her parents names from her death certificate.
Marks (cornwall, devon), Pennie (stirlingshire),
Robertson (perthshire, scotland), Swanston (roxburghshire, berwickshire)

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Re: Purves /Berwick on Tweed
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 September 11 20:13 BST (UK) »
bairn 359
Many thanks for taking the time to look up the info. for births, much appreciated.
I  contacted Berwick Register House for a death certificate earlier this week , but have not heard anything yet. Hopefully there may be some information I can use. I can`t seem to get the 1841 census for Berwick,I was hoping to get Jane`s actual birth place from that .most of the children were born before  then.Tried on ancestry but just couldn`t access it for some reason at the library.Got the 1851 ,but 1841 was not coming up. Probably not pressing the right buttons !

Evelyn

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Re: Purves /Berwick on Tweed
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 September 11 17:19 BST (UK) »
1841 census will only give you a county - born in or not - not a birthplace.

Diddy
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Re: Purves /Berwick on Tweed
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 September 11 17:35 BST (UK) »
Diddy,  thanks for info.
Evelyn

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Re: Purves /Berwick on Tweed
« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 October 11 14:21 BST (UK) »
I think I have at last found my Jane ? None of the Jane Robertson`s suggested fitted the bill, so I checked all my census forms again and noticed that one or two of the children had Lorrains as a middle name.Searched for a Jane Lorraine and found a marriage in Duns, Berwickshire for a William Purves and Jane Lorrains in 1808. All the children`s dates fitted with the other Jane,but had no evidence to prove.Then I had a stroke of luck. Berwick Reg Office have been great in helping me find my G Grandparents  and GG Grandparents and in the North Road cemetery, Berwick on Tweed.I went down to lay flowers on their graves , and decided to have a look for other Purves graves. Just a few yards away I struck gold !

          A headstone had William Purves  and Jane Lorraine , his widow.
          Also his eldest son William and his wife Jane (Hedley). Jane is interred in Edinburgh,
          The dates all match up with the d certs I have for them so I am pretty sure
         I have the right one . Father , son and grandson all within a few yards of each
         other is looking good for this being the family .
         William and Jane had a daughter Alice married William Hope . His name is on Jane
         Hedley`s d cert. all living in Edinburgh.
        Thanks to all who gave advice  suggestions .
          Evelyn