lost at Sea

[spook]

Hi all

I'm struggling and looking for some guidance 

My Great Grandfather, John Douglass who was from Amble, Northumberland was lost at sea from a trawler on 27/12/1930 off the Dogger Bank.

He was born in or around 1864.

Any ideas where I could locate a death certificate for him 

[suttontrust]

Have you tried 1837online?

[cassie]

I know that you can view births/marriages/deaths at sea...in the Family Record Centre in London.

One of my ancestors died at sea and I was able to get his death certificate by doing that.

Im sure other record offices would also hold the information

Good luck

[liverpool annie]

Hi Spook

I can't tell you about death certs -  but here are site about Fleetwood trawlers etc  - might give you some ideas !

http://www.fleetwood-trawlers.connectfree.co.uk/industry2.html

http://www.kokand.karoo.net/index.htm

Check out this thread it might help

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,55327.new/boardseen.html

Annie

[spook]

thought I'd resurrect this thread 

Still not had any joy finding this death cert but just had a thought - is there a 7 year rule or something about someone being missing for 7 years before they can be declared dead?

[Valda]

Died at sea and lost at sea are two different things. Died at sea means a body (even if it was then buried at sea before the ship could make the next land) and therefore some proof of death and possible cause of death. That equals the possibility of a death registration. Lost at sea means no proof of death and no body (unless it is later washed up on the coast and identified - there are deaths registered at the end of each quarter for a depressing number of unknown people/bodies).
The topic has been asked about before.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,132892.0.html

The 2003 newspaper article is useful for the process that still must be gone through for someone to be declared dead without a body found.

Regards

Valda

[spook]

Just to resurrect this, I never did find a death certificate although I did find these newspaper reports.

Just goes to show how wrong family memories can be, lost off a trawler on the Dogger Bank indeed 🙄

[Alan of Kaslo]

Neither of these deaths from the GRO are him?

      DOUGLASS, JOHN  ROBERT      67 
GRO Reference: 1930  J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM SOUTH  Volume 06D  Page 160

   DOUGLASS, JOHN  WILLIAM      66 
GRO Reference: 1931  M Quarter in PRESCOT  Volume 08B  Page 1137

[spook]

I don’t think so. I’ve made contact with someone who has an alternative date of death of 1926 as opposed to 1930.