WILLIAM SULLIVAN BIRTH about 1846

[erinsullivan]

I am trying to track down my SULLIVAN family. M g-grandfather WIlliam SULLIVAN and wife Ann DONEGAN .  I am after Williams birth which according to census would be about 1846 and says born Pontypool. I have able to find one William in 1851 census (Trevethin, Monmouthshire) that seems about right. If so his father was Daniel SULLIVAN and mother Mary. Both born Cork Ireland.

William's marriage to Ann also not found and they were living in Canton by 1871 with one son Daniel (aged 1)

I can't see anything in freebmd though. Also on the look for how to find if any catholic registers for the area.

Fingers crossed

Erin SULLIVAN

[keyboard86]

Hi I just wonder if Ann could be a Julia?

Marriage William Sullivan to Julia DONNIGAN June 1868 Cardiff 11a 370

Only a hopeful punt!

Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

If his mother in the 1851 census was aged approx 50 then he is in Cardiff in 1861:-

Mary SULIVAN Widow 60 b Ireland
William 15 b Pontypool
Residing at Severn Road, Llandaff, Cardiff, Glamorganshire
Census ref RG09/4038/50/4


Keyboard86

[erinsullivan]

Hi,

The marriage with Julia is the ONLY one I can find in FREEBMD that seems possible. BUT census and childrens Birth certificates all say ANN. That is why I thought a Catholic register (if possible) might find it.

I also have the 1851 census and again it seems the only one that matches. BUT I cannot find a birth for William , again maybe RC registers.

One of Williams sons - James is my Grandfather who migrated to OZ. His marriage certificate also says b Pontypool and parents William and ANN.

Thanks for the help - still fingers crossed

Erin

[keyboard86]

Hi again, the birth via Freebmd I agree does not want to show itself, as far as the marriage is concerned, unless someone comes up.with another Sullivan/Donegan combination I think it is a goer!

Maybe, ( This is possibly clutching at straws ) Julia did not like her birth name, and like my mother uses, and is known by her middle name Patricia , which followed on from her mother Clara, who was known as Pat, but her middle name was Minnie!!

Hope it gets sorted for you, the marriage cert may be worth a punt.
Keyboard86

[erinsullivan]

Yes I may have to spend my hard earned to check this marriage. Parish registers are so much more useful. She may have been a widow and the Formerly Name may be her maiden name not her name that she married under - if you see what I mean.

The missing birth may also suggest that William may not be his birth name. I have many Irish in my family and they are very fond of the use of pet names and middle names etc.

Maybe someone on the boad may by chance be a SULLIVAN of this clan.

Thanks for the help - much appreciated

Erin

[osprey]

the records for St Alban's, Pontypool are at the county record office

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,143291.0.html

But, the record office is closed until next month as it's moving premises

http://www.torfaen.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/GwentRecordsOffice/Home.aspx

[erinsullivan]

Thanks for the information about where the records are. Is St Albans the only RC source for Monmouthshire?

Is the County Record office is the only place that holds RC records? If so then I will just have to be patient.

William moved to Canton sometime by 1871. Do you know from your experience where the RC records are held for Canton/Cardiff? I thought I would ask before posting elsewhere. So far - I have had no responses to this question I posted elsewhere.

Thanks again. I don't know my way around Wales Family History so any tuition very gladly received.

Erin

[osprey]

it's the only one at the time in the parish of Trevethin

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Trevethan/index.html

Choice of 2 churches in Cardiff at the time - St David's & St Peter's, records for both at the archives in Cardiff

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Roath/Chapels.html

http://www.archiveswales.org.uk/anw/get_collection.php?inst_id=33&coll_id=76221&expand=

http://www.archiveswales.org.uk/anw/get_collection.php?inst_id=33&coll_id=76219&expand=

http://www.stpeters-roath.co.uk/

http://www.glamro.gov.uk/