Help Interpreting A Marriage

[Racing Girl]

I've recently acquired the PR's for Bottisham from the CFHS and there is this marriage entry for a relative:

3 JULY 1719
Samuel Butler
Agnes Darwood at Trinity College Chapel

Now I understand that sometimes the Vicars also had responsibility for some of the colleges, there was a discussion on that recently, but if the marriage took place at Trinity College Chapel why is it listed in the Bottisham PR's?

[lizdb]

Could it possibly be a record of the Banns (rather than the ceremony) because one (or both) of the parties lived in the Parish of Bottisham?

[Redroger]

Very likely Samuel Butler, my mother's tree is largely based on Bottisham and I do actually have a Samuel Butler in my tree, he married Elizabeth Ayres at Great Wilbraham 20th March 1768, she seems to have had a daughter some 5 years earlier. Whether this Samuel was the father I do not yet know. My Samuel may well have been the son of the Samuel who married in 1719.

[Enumerated]

if the marriage took place at Trinity College Chapel why is it listed in the Bottisham PR's?

Perhaps Trinity College Chapel did not have registers of its own because marriages rarely took place there?

[Racing Girl]

Could it possibly be a record of the Banns (rather than the ceremony) because one (or both) of the parties lived in the Parish of Bottisham?

I was looking at the marriage page on the cd at the time, but that's a good point, there's a section for Banns too, I'll have a look at those and see if they shed any light.

That's another thought too Enumerated, perhaps the Banns will have more clues.

Thanks,
Brenda

[Racing Girl]

Very likely Samuel Butler, my mother's tree is largely based on Bottisham and I do actually have a Samuel Butler in my tree, he married Elizabeth Ayres at Great Wilbraham 20th March 1768, she seems to have had a daughter some 5 years earlier. Whether this Samuel was the father I do not yet know. My Samuel may well have been the son of the Samuel who married in 1719.

Hello Roger
This Samuel here was the brother of William Butler, it was William's son Samuel that might have married Elizabeth Ayres.  I say might because I haven't fully proved it yet, but William Butler had two sons, William bn 1725 died 1747 unmarried, and Samuel bn 1728 (my husbands line) .  Samuel married Sarah Flinders/Flanders/Flendirs in 1746 but she died in 1758, my husband is from their son William.  He next married Ellen Potter who died in 1766.  It looks like there was a third marriage to an Elizabeth.  All the internet trees have Elizabeth Gotobed and a marriage date of 20 March 1768 in Bottisham, but there was no marriage recorded on that day in Bottisham (for anyone), there was however a marriage in Gt Wilbraham on that date between Samuel Butler and Elizabeth Ayres but I'm not sure if this is my Samuels third marriage.  Of course, he may never have had a third marriage and this Samuel and Elizabeth may not be a relation to my husband at all!

Regards,
Brenda

[Racing Girl]

I was looking at the marriage page on the cd at the time, but that's a good point, there's a section for Banns too, I'll have a look at those and see if they shed any light.

Wouldn't you know it, the Banns begin in 1757 on the cd so no joy there!

[Redroger]

Hi Brenda, I have Elizabeth Gotobed marrying Edward Ayres on 12 October 1756 at Great Wilbraham. There are two children known to me Elizabeth b1757 and Edward b1761. The trees in these villages are so intertwined that the entire community seems to have been inter related. Thanks to my mother's side I am my own 4th cousin as a result. So I can never talk to myself, only to my 4th cousin.