1881 + 1891 Census + Marriage needed for Markie

[drewsankie]

I have the marriage cert for John Markie and Mary Ann Kearney
18th July 1890 St Mungos Chapel, Glasgow, (St Rollox)
John aged 22 address looks like 28 Hatfield St, Glasgow.
Son of Peter Markie and Roseann Huges (Deceased)

Mary aged 19 of 186 Blochairn ? Road, Glasgow Daughter of James Kearney and Mary Ann Veitch

I need to find John Markie in the 1881 or 1891 Census to find out where he was from.

Also trying to find the Birth of John Markie
and the marriage of his parents Peter Markie & Roseann Hughes.

The name sometimes does differ in spelling which could be a reason for not being able to find it.

I do have the LDS 1881 census for scotland but still unable to find John or Peter.

Occupations of both John and Peter either Steel Worker or Steel Smelter.
Regards Ian Markie

Getting in a mess with this family now !
John Markie also married Susan Mary McCann but i cant find the marriage

Peter Markie married 3 times  Cant find any of these either!
1 Roseann hughes
2 Helen Wilson Nee Carpenter
Eliza Jane Hughes Nee Moore

also looking for peter Markie and Margaret reillys Marriage 1839 ish !
and James Markie to Sarah Bell before 1819.
They all should be in the Glasgow area
But i do say should !
regards Ian Markie

[kenjo]

Hi drewsankie,

I feel that this is a possibility.
I can't find the marriages on the IGI, either. but if most took place in Ireland you may have to read the Indexes at a Mormon  centre.
Also John could a fibbed about his age , when he married. and also changed jobs, after the 1881 c, to do what his dad and brother did.

1881 c
   Dwelling:   146 Garngadhill
   Census Place:   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203639     GRO Ref    Volume 644-3    EnumDist 52    Page 4
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Peter MARKIE   M   45    M   Ireland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Lab In Iron Works
Helen MARKIE   M   40    F   Ireland
   Rel:   Wife
John MARKIE   U   20    M   Ireland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Bottle Blower Glass Work
James MARKIE       14    M   Ireland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Lab In Iron Work
Rose Ann MARKIE       6 m   F   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
James WILSON   U   15    M   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Rel:   Vist
   Occ:   Jobber In Spinning Factory

Regards
kenjo

[drewsankie]

If this is the family, which i think it is.
Peter Must of married Roseann Hughes in Ireland, and she must of died there.
He then marries Helen Wilson as we see them in the 1881 census with a visitor John wilson born Glasgow, which could be her son ? from a 1st marriage, as her maiden name is Carpenter. so this is her 2nd marriage
Then Helen must of died but i cannot find the death as on Peters death cert he was married 3 times, the 3rd wife is Eliza Jane Hughes Nee Moore and they must of been married between 1881 and 1894 but i cannot find that either and that must of been in Glasgow.

Also Peters father is in Glasgow and died in 1890 aged 71 army pensioner who was also married to a Helen !
Helen Reilly.
at the time of his death he was living at 136 Moore st, Glasgow. Present at death Son Peter Markie.
Is there any chance of finding This Peter in the 1881 census aged about 62.
This would then confirm that this is yet another irish family.
regards Ian Markie

[kenjo]

Here you go drewsankie,


1881Census
   Dwelling:   136 Moore St
   Census Place:   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203638     GRO Ref    Volume 644-3    EnumDist 11    Page 14
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Peter MARKEY   M   61    M   Ireland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   General Labourer
Helen MARKEY   M   47    F   Ireland
   Rel:   Wife
Mary Ann MARKEY   U   20    F   England
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Sewing Machinist
William MARKEY   U   17    M   Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Eliza MARKEY       14    F   England
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
Peter MARKEY       8    M   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Thomas NICOL   U   50    M   Selkirk, Selkirk, Scotland
   Rel:   Visitor
   Occ:   Teacher

regards kenjo

[drewsankie]

Now then. That one put the spanner in the works!
As i didnt expect there to be a Peter aged 8 to be there.
So i conclude that this Peter Markie / Markey is not the same.
as the one i was looking for!
What may of confused me is that my Peter was the son of Peter Markie and Margaret Reilly and this Peter married a Helen Reilly all living in the same area of Dennistoun.

I think it seems like that Peter may of come over just with his wife and children
So easy to get confused 
So far out of all the Markie branches i have picked they have all gone back to Ireland which surprises me, As i thought the Name of Markie was Scottish 
Ian

[kenjo]

 Drewsankie,
 

   Here is the Marriage of the 3rd wife.
Just remember to br very general. use lots of *
 
Criteria : Male Surname: "MARK*"; Female Surname: "MO*"; Male Forename: "PE*"; Year From: 1881; Year To: 1894
 
No. Year Surname(M) Forename(M) Surname(F) Forename(F) District County GROS Data Image Extract
 
1 1887          MARKEY PETER /       MOORE ELIZABETH BLACKFRIARS LANARK 644/05 0017   
 
 I forgot to look for the Death of the 2nd wife.
regards
kenjo
 

[drewsankie]

  Ha i will try that perhaps i may get some where now !
Thank you i will look
Regards Ian