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Re: BIRKENSHAW mystery
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 15 October 11 14:32 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this has any bearing on anything  or may be nothing but other chatters may be able to clarify:

Ryerson Index has the following 2 death notices.

CORMACK William Birkinshaw
Death notice 23 SEP 1962
Death  late of West Ryde
Sydney Morning Herald 25 SEP 1962

This would appear to be William Birkenshaws' birth registration:
3969/1876  CORMACK  William Birkenshaw
Father John 
Mother  Elizabeth C
Registered at Glebe

and marriage of parents
1255/1875 
CORMACK  John 
BIRKENSHAW  Elizabeth C
Registered at  Balmain



CORMACK William Dunbar
Death notice 07 AUG 1995
Death 83  late of Lismore
Northern Star (Lismore) 12 AUG 1995

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Re: BIRKENSHAW mystery
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 15 October 11 15:50 BST (UK) »
There is no marriage registered in SA for them.

This is their marriage in Broken Hill:

DUNBAR ABRAHAM m. EASTER ELIZABETH BROKEN HILL 1893  #2627

Births of two daughters:

DUNBAR ROSETTA b. 1894 BROKEN HILL #7731
Parents: ABSOLOM H & ELIZABETH

DUNBAR ELIZABETH M b. 1895 BROKEN HILL #10298
Parents: HENRY A & ELIZABETH    

Death of first born daughter:

DUNBAR ROSETTA d. 1894 BROKEN HILL #3388
Parents: ABSALOM H & ELIZABETH    

There are several mentions of Henry in the newspapers domestic violence, causing trouble, going to gaol all around the Broken Hill area & then finally he was caught & gaoled in England.

Here are a couple:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/45628841?searchTerm=%22henry%20dunbar%22&searchLimits=

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/44104747?searchTerm=%22henry%20dunbar%22&searchLimits=

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Re: BIRKENSHAW mystery
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 15 October 11 21:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Carolyn,
I dont know what this has to do with any of the previous but a strong coincidence is found in this birth.

25/1909  DUNBAR  MAY     Mother ETHEL M  SYDNEY NO FATHER LISTED

Could this be your EMILY M Birkenshaw? This whole family seems to have a way with altering Christian Names  :o

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Re: BIRKENSHAW mystery
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 15 October 11 22:45 BST (UK) »
Sorry should have added there are two births of Ethel M Dunbar's none in Sydney.
23003/1885  DUNBAR  ETHEL M  FATHER CHARLES  MOTHER ELIZABETH  at SCONE
20932/1894  DUNBAR  ETHEL M  FATHER WILLIAM  MOTHER FRANCES S  at MEREWETHER

Either of these could be as per my earlier post ???

There is a commonality with the Dunbar women of the strong use of the name MAY.

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Re: BIRKENSHAW mystery
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 16 October 11 10:18 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Thankyou for all your suggestions.
I have found a marriage of Henry DUNBAR to Eliza J HARRISON in Orange in 1895.
Also a death of Henry DUNBAR [parents Joseph and Sarah in 1949[Orange again].
I am interested as my great grandmother was Florence Amy BIRKENSHAW borm1872 at Homebush Victoria [parents George and Rebecca].
She married John Charles LAWLOR in 1896 and moved to Broken Hill in abt 2004.
I wondered whether Emily Maud was her child that she adpoted out?
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Re: BIRKENSHAW mystery
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 16 October 11 10:57 BST (UK) »
PROV Has a digitised will for a George BURKENSHAW, Ex-Farmer of Lower Homebush available for viewing online. This is a lengthy document of 32 pages.

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Re: BIRKENSHAW mystery
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 16 October 11 11:41 BST (UK) »
Thankyou :D
I am amazed how helpful everyone is!
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Carolyn

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Re: BIRKENSHAW mystery
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 16 October 11 12:11 BST (UK) »

I have found a marriage of Henry DUNBAR to Eliza J HARRISON in Orange in 1895.
Also a death of Henry DUNBAR [parents Joseph and Sarah in 1949[Orange again].

I cannot find a registration for either of those events at the NSW BDM online site.  It is possible that the online index does not include every entry in their registers, but it will be a tad more difficult for you to obtain either an official transcript or a certified copy of their records.   

From that 1895 marriage, do you have the denomination, clergyman's details, and the witnesses?  I could try to find confirming info from my off line NSW resources. 

PS, perhaps the info in your post re Florence Amy Birkenshaw's marriage to John Charles Lawlor in 1896 and move to Broken Hill in abt 2004 has a typo, would that be 1904 perchance?  ;)  

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Re: BIRKENSHAW mystery
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 16 October 11 12:29 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Sorry of course it was 1904 not 2004!
No I don't have any other information.I need to order the certificates.
Regards,
Carolyn