WOOLLEY LOUGHBOROUGH LEICESTERSHIRE

[JulieMWhyte]

Hello from Australia.

I am trying to find out more about my g g grandmother Sarah Woolley who married Thomas Palmer. Sarah was born about 1826 at Mount Sorrel and married Thomas Palmer in 1850. Thomas was born 1821 Ellchester Somerset (I think)
Sarah's parents were George Woolley born 1801 Appleberry Mountsorrel and Martha born 1801 Loughborough Mountsorrel. As far as I know Sarah had brothers John born 1826  William born 1827 and sister Frances born 1821.

I know absolutely nothing else about this family - except that Martha Woolley possibly lived at 28 Nottingham Rd Loughborough in 1881

Any help would be gratefully accepted

Thank you

Julie

[dcbnwh]

Hi Julie,

In 1851, Thomas Palmer, born in Ilchester, near Yeovil, Somerset, and Sarah are living at 4 Sheen Vale, Richmond, Surrey.
I can't find them in 1861 or 1871.

According to a tree on Ancestry, George Wooley was born in Appleby Magna, Leicestershire, in 1799 and died in 1866.
He married Martha Deakin on 24th June 1822 in Leicester. She died in 1871.

In 1841, the children are as you listed.

1n 1851, William, a bricklayer, is living in Ratby, Leics, with wife, Mary Ann, born 1828 in Mountsorrel.
Probable marriage in 1850 to Mary Ann Noon.
John, a bricklayer, is in Mountsorrel with wife, Sarah b 1828 in Mountsorrel, and daughter, Caroline, age 2.
Possible marriage in 1847 to Sarah Brown.

I can't find William or John after 1851.

Regards,
David

[JulieMWhyte]

David
Thank you very much for the speedy reply - Could I ask for another favour - I don't know where I got this from - I've had it for a long time but am unsure if it is my George and Martha

I found this among my notes and wondered if the children are part of this family

1861 Mountsorrel North Leic
Leicester Rd East
George Woolley H M 60 Brickmaker/Innkeeper b.Appleby
Martha Woolley W M 65 Publicans wife b. Loughbro
Martin King Boarder U 41 Granite Quarrier b. Ireland

WOOLLEY Frederick 9y Mountsorrel South 15 126
WOOLLEY John 8y Mountsorrel South 15 126
WOOLLEY George 60y Mountsorrel 41 175
WOOLLEY Martha 65y Mountsorrel 41 175

[dcbnwh]

I think it is probable that Frederick and John are the children of John Wooley and Sarah Brown. They are listed as the grandchildren of Ann Brown who also has a daughter, Rebecca.

There are baptisms for Rebecca and Sarah, children of Thomas Brown and Ann, in Mountsorrel on 6th Jan 1833. No ages are given but presumably Sarah is the wife of John Woolley.

In 1871, Frederick is a Hosier boarding in Chorlton on Medlock, Lancashire.

I have now found John and Sarah in 1871:-

Newtown Linford, Leicestershire
John Wooley Brickmaker   46
Sarah Wooley   41
Caroline Wooley b Mountsorrel 21
John Wooley b Mountsorrel 17
Charles Wooley b  Newtown Linford 14
Alfred Wooley b Newtown Linford   11
Emily Wooley b  Newtown Linford 4

Also in 1861 but transcribed as Walby:-

Newtown Linford
John Walby 36
Sarah Walby 34
Caroline Walby 17
Charles Walby 4
Wilh Alfred Walby 1

This tends to confirm that Frederick and John are John's children

By 1881, Frederick has married Elizabeth in Chorlton and has children:-
Brother, William Alfred is with them also
39 Molyneux St, Chorlton On Medlock, Lancashire.
Frederick Woolley 29
Elizabeth Woolley 27
Eleanor Woolley   2
Bertha E. Woolley 9m   
William A. Woolley 21

John is in Mountsorrel:-
London Road
John Woolley Brickmaker 27
Eliza Woolley 27
William Bates Woolley 11
Charles Fred Woolley 3
John Clifton Woolley

Regards,
David

[diddymiller]

Julie, i have access to Loughboorugh & Mountsorrel PRs etc.  and check for a marriage George & Martha and also probably which pub they ran in L'boro.

do you want me to check anything else from above?

Diddy

[JulieMWhyte]

David and Diddy - Thank you very much - All and any information is fascinating.
I would love to know all I can about this family.

Also the elusive Thomas Palmer who married Sarah Woolley - Sarah moves to Yorkshire along with her daughter Sarah Palmer who marries ...?? (will need to check this ... can't remember who) and another daughter Rose Palmer who marries George Thomas Liddemore - Sarah snr  shows as being a widow but family rumour has it that Thomas was alive and also living around Leeds -

Diddy - please check marriages for me - I really appreciate

Julie

[JulieMWhyte]

For above message

Sarah Palmer married Isaac Ward


Question could Frederick and John be William Woolley's and Mary Ann Noon's  children

Thanks

julie

[dcbnwh]

Hi Julie,

Given the surname of the grandparents and the way they appear on the censuses, I think that John and Frederick were the children of John Woolley and Sarah Brown, although you would need the birth, baptism or marriage records to be absolutely certain.

I have found Sarah Palmer in 1881 and 1891, so she didn't die in 1871. See - http://newsfeed.rootsweb.com/th/read/ENG-DURHAM-YORKS/2004-12/1104522575
This gives more family details

1891 census:-
Cant Clough, Worsthorne St John, Lancashire
Sarah Palmer born Monat Sorrel, Leicestershire 62
Alice Ward born Loughborough 10 - grandchild
Thomas Ward born Loughborough 7 - grandchild

1881 census:-
Loughborough
Canal Bank
Sarah Palmer 51
George Palmer 25
Anne Palmer 20
Rose Palmer 13
Next door to:-
Isaac Ward 23
Sarah Ward 22
Alice Ward

I noticed one of your posts in 2007, which confirms the following:
On the 1881 census, Thomas Palmer of Elchester (Ilchester) is a bricklayer in Alwoodley, Yorkshire.
Further down the page is his son, Thomas Palmer, who is also a bricklayer, born c1866 in Woolwich, Kent.
I have found his marriage to Mary Ellen Wadsworth in Halifax, Yorkshire, on 28th August 1886. He gives his father as Thomas Palmer a bricklayer.

In 1901, Thomas Jnr. gives his birthplace as Bromley, Kent, and has children Thomas, Leonard and Hedley.

You can find images of the marriage of Thomas to Mary Ellen, the baptisms of Thomas and Leonard and the marriages of Thomas and Leonard on Ancestry. If you have a problem with them, please let me know.

Regards,
David

[diddymiller]

not very successful!!

couldn't find any baptisms of children of George & Marha in Mountsorrel /Rothley or marriages. as George & Martha married in Leicester, St Margarets, i wonder whether they were still there for the childrens baptisms.
also checked on the Leics IGI but couldn't find them at all!!

Sorry,
Diddy