Lewis Fridenry ancestors - are they immigrants?

[Mouchoir]

Thank you so much for your help!  I have the birth certificate of Clare Agnes Howes in 1862 (April 5th), Limehouse, Middlesex.  On this it just says formerly 'Lewis'.

[avm228]

OK - this is a tough one! Will ponder further.

Am I right in thinking that Charlotte & John's marriage broke down & he went on to have one or more children with another woman? (Baptism 22 Nov 1874 St Matthias, Bethnal Green of a son John Harry to John Dunbar Page Howes and Mary Ann Emma...)

[jorose]

There is a Mary Ann Lewis Fridenrick/Fridewick (freebmd) who marries in 1846 in Pancras (I think to John Hall Sutton).
If I have the right family, in 1861 she is aged 40, b. Whitechapel (RG9/142 122/32 Bentley Terrace, Islington).

Possible sister? (mother's maiden name Lewis?)

[avm228]

There is a Mary Ann Lewis Fridenrick/Fridewick (freebmd) who marries in 1846 in Pancras (I think to John Hall Sutton).
If I have the right family, in 1861 she is aged 40, b. Whitechapel (RG9/142 122/32 Bentley Terrace, Islington).

Possible sister? (mother's maiden name Lewis?)

Very interesting!

She does indeed marry John Hall Sutton.  In doing so she gives her father's details as Peter Fridenrick, baker.

[Mouchoir]

Intriguing.  I hadn't known about the marriage breaking down.  Fridenrick is an interesting possible alternative rendering of the name.  I really appreciate your looking into this - anything you can find is of help.  So could this other person be a cousin or something, if they are giving their father's name as Peter, not John?
Does the name suggest any particular country / place of origin?  I have certain things I'm hoping to find, but have now got to the point I want to know, even if I am disappointed!

Thank you!
M

[avm228]

So could this other person be a cousin or something, if they are giving their father's name as Peter, not John?

It could be that, or it could be that they're sisters (perhaps even twins) and Father was only a fleeting presence in their early lives (if at all) and they aren't too sure of the facts about him.

Does the name suggest any particular country / place of origin?  I have certain things I'm hoping to find, but have now got to the point I want to know, even if I am disappointed!

If you tweak the spelling to Friedenrich/Friedenreich/Freidenreich etc you start finding German and Jewish links. "Peter, a baker" certainly sounds potentially German - Peter being a much more popular name in Germany than England at that time, and Germany was renowned for its highly-skilled bakers and confectioners, many of whom came to England with their craft.

John the coffee roaster I'm not so sure about!

[Mouchoir]

Thank you so much!  I must admit, this just gets more intriguing.  I had hoped they were immigrants, and in particular that they might be Jewish.  Are there likely to be any records anywhere of a name change, or some kind of immigration record? 
M

[toni*]

she didnt marry until 1843 she may not have been here in 1841

have you looked at the address she gave in 1843 to see who was therein 1841 or 1851 and what it was  i.e. it may have been a lodging house

[Mouchoir]

Thanks
These people are puzzling!  Even the address, Bridge Street, Hackney given on the marriage certificate seems somewhat hard to trace.  I will persevere!

I do appreciate your help.
M