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Re: Census lookup please - Christopher Whittenbury JONES
« Reply #9 on: Friday 21 October 11 19:19 BST (UK) »
Hi

Think the 1841 census is definitely him, a newspaper item dated Saturday Mar. 07,  1840 of partnerships dissolved says
'Christopher Whittenbury Jones, Edward Benjamin Jackson and Henry William Tippett, of Manchester and of Whitfield, Lancashire spinners.'
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I also wonder are there two Christophers? There is also this marriage entry on FreeBMD

Marriages June 1862:

Christopher Whittenbury Jones       Bangor   vol. 11b page 844
married either,  Mary Bromfield   or Elizabeth Williams.

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Re: Census lookup please - Christopher Whittenbury JONES
« Reply #10 on: Friday 21 October 11 20:26 BST (UK) »
There is an entry for Christopher Whittenbury Jones on the Probate Index 4 May 1864

The wil of CW Jones late of Manchester corn and commission agent deceased died 2 April 1864 was proved at Manchester by William Henry Jones of Moreland House Crosby Road Seaforth Liverpool rice miller the brother the sole executor

Effects under £1500 resworn 1872 as under £4000

It might be worth getting a copy of the will and his death certificate to see who registered his death and his status.

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Re: Census lookup please - Christopher Whittenbury JONES
« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 October 11 20:34 BST (UK) »
Christopher Hird Jones died in 1866 aged 84

He is also in the Probate Index on Ancestry

Died 26 Jan 1866 will proved 9 April effects under £100

Will proved by William henry Jomnes of Moreland House Seaforth Liverpool the SON

So Christopher Whittenbury Jones and William Henry Jones are brothers and the sons of Christopher Hird Jones

CH Jones wife is on the 1851 census but not on the 1861 census so must have died between the two. In 1861 CH is at 43 Everton brow with daughter Harriet.

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PS in 1851 William henry bn 1822 is with his parents at 5 Everton brow. By 1861 he is married to Margaret and is living in Great Crosby with 2 daughters. BY 1871 the census lists him at Moreland House Crosby Road South Seaforth with quite a few children and servants.

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Re: Census lookup please - Christopher Whittenbury JONES
« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 October 11 20:43 BST (UK) »
Selina Jones: effects under £100

19 Dec. 1861:   Letters of administration (with will annexed) with the personal effects and estate of Selina Jones (wife of Christopher Hird Jones)  Late of Everton Brow Liverpool deceased who died 30 Dec. 1860 at Everton Brow aforesaid, were granted at Liverpool with certain limitations to William Henry Jones of Liverpool  Merchant the son and one of the residiary Legatees named in the will having first been sworn.

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Re: Census lookup please - Christopher Whittenbury JONES
« Reply #13 on: Friday 21 October 11 20:48 BST (UK) »
By 1881 William Henry Jones is at Hooton Grange Hooton over on the Wirral and he is still there in 1901

He died 10 May 1908 and his will was proved 18 August 1908 at London

Effects £60,316 8s 1d

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Re: Census lookup please - Christopher Whittenbury JONES
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 22 October 11 07:13 BST (UK) »
Claire and Gibel - wow, thanks very much for all of this extra information.

Claire - CW was a widower in 1861, therefore the marriage in 1862 on FreeBMD could be his.  In saying that, I have found a christening for Maria Hird JONEs at FamilySearch in 1888 in Cheshire, father Christopher Whittenbury Jones and mother Elizabeth!??
If CW did have another wife from 1862, then perhaps Maria is with the wife either Mary or Elizabeth in 1871.  Where is Bangor?
Suppose there is another CW - I'll call him CW2, then maybe the 1853 marriage to Elizabeth Higginbotham is his - the entry on IGI has meen submitted by a member; it's not a transcription.   Mind you, the christening in 1888 is a long time after 1853!  A mystery, that one.

Thanks for the probate information - all very interesting.  And now I have death dates for CH and Selina.

As an aside, Selina Whittenbury JONES, daughter of Christopher Hird JONES and Selina WHITTENBURY (and sister to CW JONES) married Charles Lewis WRENSHALL, a music professor and supposedly her music teacher.  Charles JONES, another sibling, married Caroline WRENSHALL, sister to Charles Lewis.  Charles and Caroline came to Australia, but Caroline returned to England after Charles died in 1850.  Two sons then came back to Australia in the 1860s.


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Re: Census lookup please - Christopher Whittenbury JONES
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 22 October 11 13:16 BST (UK) »
I'd get copies of some of the wills to help sort the family out and perhaps some bmd certificates.

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Re: Census lookup please - Christopher Whittenbury JONES
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 22 October 11 18:30 BST (UK) »
Hi,

As Susan and Walter were in Liscard in 1871, found this

1871 Liscard,  No. 1 Littler Terrace

Mary Jones Head Widow 52       Annuitant    bn Lancs. Liverpool
Maria H  "   daug             13      Scholar          "     "      Manchester
Jane Marr   serv.             ??      Servant General . bn.Lancs. Liverpool

classRG10 piece3754 folio 4 page2

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Re: Census lookup please - Christopher Whittenbury JONES
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 22 October 11 19:09 BST (UK) »
Hi

Just seen the christening (1888)  on familysearch, noticing it took place in Liscard, I wonder if it was an adult christening of the Maria H?

Bangor is in North West Wales,

claire
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk