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baptism 1877 at Stow on the Wold
« on: Monday 24 October 11 15:49 BST (UK) »
Hello.

 I am seeking the baptism entry of Robert Brookes ( may not have an 'e' in it, nor indeed an 's'), in 1877 at Stow on the Wold.

 He is not shown in the civil birth indexes , but there is a Robert Briggs shown there ( March quarter 1877) .

Robert Brooks is shown in the 1881 census (age 4) with his grandparents in Stow, and born at Stow. I think he was illegitimate and was booked in the civil lists as a Briggs to confuse the issue. But I hope that he was baptised a Brooks.

There is no sign of a Robert Briggs in the census nor in the burial indexes.

Is there anyone out there that has access to Stow Registers and who may be able to help me.

Thanking you in anticipation.

duniger

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Re: baptism 1877 at Stow on the Wold
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 October 11 16:10 BST (UK) »
The birth registration in March qtr 1877  Stow on the Wold is for Robert John Briggs, he died the same quarter.
Briggs  Robert John  age 0  Stow  4a 367

 
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freebmd has the birth wrongly transcribed as Stow on the Wold it should be Stow, Suffolk the same as the death
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Re: baptism 1877 at Stow on the Wold
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 October 11 16:22 BST (UK) »
Cant help with the baptism - but have found the family in several censuses to get a wider picture of who his parents may be

1871
RG10 3215 43 36
Dovedale Lodge, jockey stables Blockley Worcs
William Brooks 41 groom bn Shrewsbury
Harriett 33 bn Winchcomb
Annie 14 bn Clos Bourton
Laura 10 bn WOrcester Severn Stoke
Kate 8 bn Glos Bourton
Ben 6 bn GLos Bourton

1881
RG11 3111 26 2
Jockey Stables Blockley
William 51 groom bn Shrewsbury
Harriett 42 bn Winchcomb
KAte 18 bn Glos Bourton
Robert 4 grandson bn Glos Stow

(Laura is a 20 yr old servant in London RG11 732 107 87)

1891
RG12 2484 103 2
same address
William 61 groom bn Shrewsbury
HArriett 52 bn Winchcomb
Ben 26 single son bn Bourton
Robert 14 grandson bn Stow on the Wold
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: baptism 1877 at Stow on the Wold
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 October 11 16:27 BST (UK) »
and back one more decade to find one more child of Wm and Harriet

1861
RG9 2099 50 14
Severn Stoke
Harriett 21 Married Head Wife of a groom bn Winchcomb
William 2 bn Bourton
Laura 3 mths bn Severn Stoke
Sophia PArsons 12 visitor bn Bellows Lane
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: baptism 1877 at Stow on the Wold
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 October 11 16:29 BST (UK) »
Birth

Oct/Nov/Dec 1876
Stow on the Wold ref 6a 411
Robert Holdaway Brookes

looking on the face of it as son of Laura when she was 16, or of Annie.
But birth cert would confirm.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: baptism 1877 at Stow on the Wold
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 October 11 16:35 BST (UK) »
There IS a Robert Holdaway around in Stow on the Wold in 1881 ...hmmmmm.... but I wouldnt like to make any definite conclusions as that might be very unfair to him. He is a hawker, married and age 63 (RG11 2563 15 25). Maybe he has a son who knew Annie!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: baptism 1877 at Stow on the Wold
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 October 11 16:39 BST (UK) »
There IS a Robert Holdaway around in Stow on the Wold in 1881 ...hmmmmm.... but I wouldnt like to make any definite conclusions as that might be very unfair to him.

My thoughts too lizdb  :) 

He wasn't too old though  ;D   ;D  -
he died  June qtr 1881   
HOLDAWAY  Robert  age 62  Stow on W.  6a 231
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Re: baptism 1877 at Stow on the Wold
« Reply #7 on: Monday 24 October 11 17:41 BST (UK) »
Thanks for you help, greatly appreciated.

I checked up on the Robert Holdaway and discovered in the 1881 census that there was a Coldstream Guardsman in London aged 19 who had been born at Stowe, looks promising, as you say the certificate may help.

I cannot find him in the free bmd's but there were two entrys who may have been his brothers.

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Re: baptism 1877 at Stow on the Wold
« Reply #8 on: Monday 24 October 11 17:45 BST (UK) »
Unless Robert's birth cert or baptismal record mentions a father, then it is pure speculaltion as to who he was.

I wouldnt name anyone for definite, it is hardly fair. It could be anyone - maybe his mum just liked the names Robert and Holdaway. Or maybe Robert Holdaway and his wife were particularly good to her during the difficult time, and so she named her son after him. Cant 'blacken' his name by saying he fathered the child without more evidence.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk