Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 2

[ard]

Once more, thank you for all that, there was some info that I didn't have. All serves as fertilizer for the tree!

The Brownlie info is interesting too. Archibald and Marion's first daughter was Janet and I have no death or marriage info for her. Perhaps she was involved with the Brownlie family while Violet was in an asylum (or maybe too Violet sometimes went by the name of Janet??) This isn't so much a request for information but an addition for others who may be looking for the same people.

Violet married George Brownlie in 1856, and at the time of the 1881 and 1901 censuses she was residing at a "lunatic" asylum where she also appears to have died.

Children born to Violet and George:
1. GEORGE BROWNLIE Birth: 09 SEP 1856 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland (named for father's father and father too)
7. ARCHIBALD HALLIDAY BROWNLIE Birth: 27 OCT 1857 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland (named for mother's father)
4. JAMES BROWNLIE -Birth: 10 APR 1860 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland (named for father's oldest brother )
3. THOMAS BROWNLIE -Birth: 20 MAY 1862 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland (named for mother's oldest brother)
6. MARION PENMAN BROWNLIE Birth: 25 DEC 1864 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland(named for mother's mother)
2. ELIZABETH (Betsy) KING BROWNLIE  Birth: 27 JUN 1867 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland (named for father's mother)
5. JANET (Jessie) BROWNLIE Female Birth: 19 MAR 1870 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland (mother's oldest sister?
8. VIOLET BROWNLIE  Female Birth: 25 AUG 1874 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland  (named for mother)

Hopefully that might prove helpful to someone's future research as well! Thanks again.

Cheers,

ard

[27Ster13]

Hi I'm kinda new ☺️ to this chatting but was wondering if you could give me some pointers to searching for my great great grandfather  ↖️↗️⬅️➡️⬆️
He was
William Ross Born 1873 ?Northern Ireland
Died May 20th 1955 137 Cambusnethan Street Wishaw
wife was
Mary Ann Bainland Kerr Veitch Ross Born Dec 14th 1872 Glasgow
Died April 12th 1914 Newmains Cambusnethan
Any idea which graveyard they may be?

[Lodger]

Hi 27Ster13,

Welcome to Rootschat.

The records I have end at 1916 so I can't say for sure if your gt-gt-grandfather is buried at Cambusnethan cemetery but his wife certainly is. It highly likely that he is also in that grave but, as I said, I don't have that information. Here's what I can tell you, Mary Ann, along with what are probably her parents-in-law, are buried in the municipal cemetery, in section D plot 432.

Details -

MARY ANN B.K. ROSS, housewife, Newmains, aged 42 years, married.
Parents - James Veitch & Louisa Kerr.
Interred in D432 on 14th April 1914.

MARY ROSS, Cambusnethan, aged 62 years, widow.
Parents - Robert Moffat & Isabella Prentice.
Interred in D432 on 23rd January 1907.

WILLIAM ROSS, blacksmith, Cambusnethan, aged 53 years, married.
Parents - William Ross & Joan Hogg.
Interred in D432 on 20th November 1890.

If you live locally, go to the cemetery during working hours, (better mid-afternoon) and ask for Ian the superintendent, he will check the Lair book to find the 1955 burial and, if you ask him nicely, he will show you the actual grave, hopefully it will have a headstone.

Regards,

Lodger

[27Ster13]

Hi Lodger, thank you so much and I'm so glad that I asked! I can add more to Mary Ann's mother in law now 😃😃😃 arggghhhh now I have to plan a trip up to Scotland as I'm not local I live down in West Wales! But will definitely visit the area and see who's there altogether and also ask for Ian. Keeping my fingers crossed that there is a headstone there
Thanks very much
Ster 👌🏼
 

[27Ster13]

Could I be a nuisance and ask about whether Robert & Isabella Moffat (got nothing on these currently doing a search for these 2) and William (DOB 13/04/1814 Haddington) & Joan Ross (DOB 18/07/1815 Tranent) are buried in the same cemetery? I much appreciate the effort

[Lodger]

Hello again 27Ster13,

I see Mary Ann was born in Lasswade, not Glasgow as you stated. Her parents were married at Lasswade on 2nd June 1868. I found this on Ancestry, there is a lot of information about the Veitch and Ross families as several people have submitted trees. There is a strong link to Wales, so perhaps someone else in your family has been doing some research. whoever it is, they are a descendant of Elizabeth L.W. Ross, (1909 - 1981) daughter of William and Mary Ann.
She married Gwyn V Thomas (1907 - 1977) and they had 9 children. most of this tree is "private" and I could only see the deceased members, so of their 9 children, one daughter was married to Martin Poole James who died in 2013 and another daughter was married to Eifion Gwyn Williams (1932 - 1985). There was a daughter Dorothy born 1936, died at Glamorgan 2010 and another daughter, Agnes born in Wishaw 1930, died at Law village (between Wishaw & Carluke) in 1953.

William Ross married Joan Hogg 12th January 1835 at Tranent, East Lothian (called Haddingtonshire back then) William's parents were James Ross & Agnes Stokes. William was born at Tranent 13th April 1814 and died at Haddington on 8th April 1889.
Joan's parents were William Hogg & Euphemia Brown. Joan was born at Ormiston, East Lothian 18th July 1815 and died at Ormiston 2nd June 1904.


hope you can make sense of all this.

[27Ster13]

Hi Lodger very interesting! Eifion Gwyn Williams is my grandfather so quickly signed up to ancestry lol..
So been very busy researching Mary Moffat/Ross and her parents!

I have
Isabella Prentice/Moffat (no record of her marriage to Moffat) 82 years old
Born 9th March 1805 Wishaw, Lanark Died 20th July 1887 at Cambusnethan Wishaw.

Robert Moffat 35 years old
Born 5th April 1803 in Lanark, Glasgow Died 1838 at Cambusnethan Wishaw.

Is there a chance they are buried in Cambusnethan Cemetery too?

I would be grateful for any effort
Thanks Ster

[Lodger]

27Ster13.

You're in luck!

In the old churchyard of Cambusnethan, in a plot owned (in the early 19th century) by Robert Moffat and Margaret Downie.
In the north lair -
ISABELLA MOFFAT, aged 78 years. Interred on 27th July 1887.
The register for the old churchyard only begins in the mid-1870s, so there is no way of knowing who else is in that grave (unless you find a death registered between 1855 and 1859 where it is stated on the death certificate).

BUT - there is a headstone and I have a picture of it.

[Lodger]

The picture is big but you can scroll along the bar at the bottom.

I think that "your" Robert is buried with his parents and the Robert who died in 1836 aged 68 must be his father.

Here are 2 of his siblings -

MARGARET PATERSON, housewife, Motherwell Poorhouse, aged 74 years, married.
Parents - Robert Moffat & Margaret Downie.
Buried in the old churchyard on 25th March 1873.

WILLIAM MOFFAT, labourer, Waterloo, aged 69 years, married.
Parents - Robert Moffat & Margaret Downie.

Also, 2 children of Margaret Paterson -

PETER PATERSON, clay potter, Wishaw, aged 36 years, married.
Parents - James Paterson & Margaret Moffat.
Old churchyard on 12th October 1872.

JANE BAILLIE, housewife, Wishaw, aged 25 years, married.
Parents - James Paterson & Margaret Moffat.
OLd churchyard on 13th February 1867.