Edward Rainsford Esq Kilkenny Ireland 1700s

[genesearch1]

Hi there,

I am researching my family lineage.

I found a birth cert of John Rainsford in 1736 in St Mary's Church Kilkenny. This is a Church of Ireland record.

His father was Edward Rainsford Esq.

Any information regarding him would be appreciated.

I also found a Marriage Cert of Isabella Rainsford married John Moffitt of Rathkealey Kilkenny in 1750
Isabella Rainsford is from Three Castles Kilkenny, about 2 miles NW of Freshford and Durrow North Kilkenny.

I believe this Isabella Rainsford is probably John Rainsford's older sister, as Johh would have been 14 in 1750.

Any information regarding Edward Rainsford  born I guess (1700 - 1710 ) making him 26 - 36 years old in 1736 when his son John Rainsford was born

OR

Isabella Rainsford  i'm guessing born ( 1728 - 1730 ) making her 20 or 22 years old when she married in 1750 , would be appreciated.

Kind Regards

Genesearch1.

[Pastmagic]

Notes and queries: Volumes 158-159; Volumes 158-159
   
books.google.ie
William White, William White - 1930 - Snippet view unfortunately, you'll have to go to a library.
Will of Edward Rainsford, dated 1743, mentions his wife Margaret, his son Edward, his youngest son Robert, his eldest daughter Isabella and youngest daughter Martka. His Executors were John Ball Esquire of Three Castles, Kilkenny.......

There are abstracts of various Rainsford wills in this book.

see also:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0hen/
The Rainsford family by Emily A. Buckland
also snipett view.

[genesearch1]

Hi Pastmagic,

WOW that was quick !!

It seems to be him ok.
As on Johns birth cert on 1736, it had his mother also down and it is Margaret.

Also Isabella was living in Three Castles, Kilkenny. This is about 2 miles NW of Castlecomer.

So it all seems to be linked up !!

Thank you soo much for that !!

You truly live up to you name - Magic !!

Thank you again.

Genesearch1

[Pastmagic]

John BALL (1702-1764) of Three Castles, Co. Kilkenny was a son of John BALL and Elizabeth COOTE.  SOURCE: Rev. William Ball Wright, Ball Family Records: Genealogical Memoirs of some Ball Families of Great Britain, Ireland and America, Yorkshire Printing Co., Ltd. 1908......

In 1737 John Ball was High Sheriff of the Co. Kilkenny and Capt. in the Militia. He married, secondly, on 7th May, 1760, Mrs. Margaret Rainsford, widow, of St. Ann's Parish, Dublin. He died Sept., 1764, at South. Frederick Str., Dublin, aged 62; his will was proved by his daughter, Dorothea Margaret, wife of Richard Shenton.

From:
http://www.thesilverbowl.com/documents/1730Feb23-BALL-JACKSON.html

Think from what i can extract from the snippet views of the two books above, it leads to Edward R ESQ being brother of the Dublin Lord Mayor of the time.

[genesearch1]

Hi PastMagic,

As ever you have been astounding !!

The Lord Mayor at the time of 1701 is Sir Mark Rainsford and its in Dublin this time !!

So this Edward Rainsford must be his son, and somehow moved to Kilkenny as the marriage shows links down there.

Thanks again, amazed as always.

Genesearch1

[Pastmagic]

According to Buckland, Edward Rainford  d. 1743, is the son of Mark and brother of Sir Marcus.

I think you will have to work this out generation by generation. It would probably be worth trying to get hold of this book, because it may help you do that.

The other executor apart from Ball, appears to be his own son Edward Rainsford of Dublin.

Its odd that there is no John in the list of children?

PM

[genesearch1]

Hi Pastmagic,

I will get a copy of that book you mentioned Emily Buckland.

It is VERY odd there is no mention of John , despite I finding a baptism from 1733 with Edward Rainsford Esq on it.

I will go have to do a bit more research on this !!

Either way it all seems to add up, the location in North Kilkenny etc leads to the right areas.

On that baptism it does mention both Margaret his wife, and the ESQ bit, and also John Ball !!

So it must be correct on this one !!

Still I will do my bit to find out more !!

Thanks again, you have been incredibly helpful the BEST Ever !!

Kind Regards
Genesearch1

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[Pastmagic]

There is something odd about that, a transcription error maybe? It might be worth giving them a ring, or tracking down the original register. - I expect  the sponsor was John Ball, not the child? It needs checking out! I have had a couple of mistranscriptions from rootsireland myself. Also there may be a second sponsor they have left out, if there is an error.
Or possibly the child is John Ball Rainsford.

PM

[genesearch1]

Hi Pastmagic

Absolutely, it is a typed error.
The Sponsor has got to be John Ball

The Father is down as Esq, however it does specify Father.

Its the only way it can  be !! Remember it is 1736 so they usually mispell it etc

I've had a few errors from them also.

I will go to Registry of Deeds or National Archives to sort out the Wills of Edward Rainsford Esq
to try and find out why John was not on this deed.

I will have to find out if he is on other ones to further prove a connection.


Thanks again you have been absolutely SUPERB !!!

Thank you

Genesearch1