Alice HUDSON Murder 1913 - Alice's Grandmother Julia REILY

[999WOODBURN]

In response to post by "rosball" - that would fit!
What is the source of this information as I don't think it shows up in the Australian BDM index on Ancestry.com?
We know Julia married John Carlile in Albury in 1862, then had children in 1863,1865,1868,1871,1873,1876,1879 & 1882.
We know a Julia Carlile (father Laurence) died in Albury in 1885, but as I haven't yet got a copy of this certificate, I am not absolutely sure this is our Julia.
If it is our Julia, she would have left a husband and 8 children ranging is ages from 3 to 22.
John Carlile may have remarried Agnes Garing in 1886. Agnes was around the same age, from the same place (Granya) and had been widowed in 1882.
Thanks again.

[Neil Todd]

Do you know where "GRANYA" is. Certificates and any sources would have to come from Victoria. After the division of States in 1854 although I am unsure if Granya was at that time still in NSW.
Have you checked Victorian Records.
Neil

[tedscout]

Granya Gap or Mt Granya is East of Wodonga.

Fantastic place to go trail bike riding 

[999WOODBURN]

That's correct. Granya is in Victoria just south of the NSW border.
We are fairly certain John and Julia lived at Granya, but her first 6 children, born between 1863 and 1876, all appear on the NSW BDM index in the district of Albury.
The youngest two, born in 1879 and 1882, are in the Victorian records.
Looking further on the basis of earlier posts, I have found a Lawrence Reilley (27), wife Anne (28) and son John (6) all arrived on 12 Feb 1842 from Cavan in Ireland on the Champion. Also found that a Michael Reilly was born to Lawrence and Anne Reilly in Albury in 1855. Presumably John and Michael were Julia's brothers.
Still looking.

[~MERLIN~]

Immigration of the REILLY family on the 'Champion' 1842:

REILLY Lawrence age 27yrs
Native place: Killincar Cavan Ireland
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Religion: Roman Catholic
Notes: Son of James and Judith Reilly, both dead. Hus of Anne

REILLY Anne age 28yrs
Native place: Tuorka Cavan Ireland
Occupation: House Servant
Religion: Roman Catholic
Notes: Dau of James and Nancy Tully. Wife of Lawrence

REILLY John age 6yrs
Native place: Cavan Ireland
Religion: Roman Catholic
Notes: Son of Lawrence and Anne Reilly

There are other REILLY's onboard that are possibly related considering some of the children below have the same given names.

[~MERLIN~]

There are five children's christenings registered to Laurence & Anne, four in NSW & one in VIC:

RILEY Judeth M - Christening (possibly Julia?)
Father: Lawrence
Mother: Ann
Reg Year: 1843   
Ref Number: V18431881 61   
Parish: Campbelltown, St John's, Roman Catholic

REILY James - Christening
Father: Lawrence
Mother: Ann
Reg Year: 1845   
Ref Number: V18452172 62   
Parish: Campbelltown, St John's, Roman Catholic

REILY Terence T - Christening
Father: Laurence
Mother: Ann
Reg Year: 1847   
Ref Number: V18472177 65   
Parish: Campbelltown, St John's, Roman Catholic

RIELY Bernard - Christening
Father: Laurance
Mother: Annie TULLY
Reg Year: 1849
Birth Place: KILMORE
Reg Number: 34915
Denomination: ROMAN CATHOLIC
Parish: KILMORE

REILLY Michael - Christening
Father: Laurence
Mother: Anne
Reg Year: 1855   
Ref Number: V18553269 72   
Parish: Albury (Co. Goulburn), Roman Catholic

[999WOODBURN]

Pardon the pun, but you are a wizard Merlin !!!
What is the source of this information? - I have been looking online for quite some time through Ancestry.com and lots of other sites, but have found nothing like this !
If I might prevail on you for a little more - Can you tell me anything about Julia's (Judeth) husband, John Carlile?
Birth details of their youngest daughter, Margaret May, registered in Victoria in 1882, states at that time he was 46 years old from Belfast, Ireland.
We suspect he may have remarried in 1886 in Albury to Agnes Garing, herself widowed in 1882. It looks like she was of a similar age and from the same place, Granya, Victoria.
We have no details as to how and when he got to Australia or of his death.
Information provided about Julia is priceless - thank you so much.

[~MERLIN~]

The marriage between John CARLILE & Agnes GARING appears in the newspaper:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0hjl/

[~MERLIN~]

Agnes Maria CARLILE (formerly GARING, nee KELLY) died 14 April 1922:

CARLILE Agnes Maria age 78yrs d. 1922 FLTON (Flemington) #5186
Father: Unknown
Mother: Unknown  UNKNOWN

Have you read her Will & Probate files available online at PROV?

http://210.8.122.120/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=54