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Re: Hampshire Hatches 1800's
« Reply #9 on: Monday 05 December 11 07:13 GMT (UK) »
Comyn's New Forest is much more than the mentions in Sway Snippets. It a directory of all the residents of the parish of East Boldre and is a mine of information.  It won't help if your family were living in neighbouring parishes.

I can't see a James KITCHER baptised around 1794.  Could the family have been non-conformists?  Could he have been illegitmate?

Where does James says he was born on the census?
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
 All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Hampshire Hatches 1800's
« Reply #10 on: Monday 05 December 11 13:00 GMT (UK) »
Hello Bearkat,  Thanks for your reply & continued interest.
Birth place is Boldre but his age varies a bit from census to census.
47yrs in 1841, 80 yrs in 1871.
Can I find Comyn’s New Forest online
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Re: Hampshire Hatches 1800's
« Reply #11 on: Monday 05 December 11 14:36 GMT (UK) »
Comyn's New Forest is not available online and it is out of print.  You should be able to get a copy through inter library loan.

Comyn's New Forest
Jude James (1982). Published by
C.J. Newsome & Associates

ISBN 0 906742 01 3

Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
 All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Hampshire Hatches 1800's
« Reply #12 on: Monday 05 December 11 14:41 GMT (UK) »
There were 2 James KITTIERS baptised in Boldre around  1794.

James son of Moses & Betty 2nd October 1791

James son of Joseph & Ann 31st january 1796

plus a couple more baptised in 1787.

Comyn's New Forest has both families listed as KITCHER.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
 All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: Hampshire Hatches 1800's
« Reply #13 on: Monday 05 December 11 20:25 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks Bearkat.
James named a son Moses b 1830, so this could be a clue, his parents may well be Moses & Betty.
Rev Comyn mentions a Moses Kitcher & a Joseph & Anne.
 Quote: -
 Close at hand lives Moses KITCHER, a widower, who has with him John aJid Will KITCHER, both in their Tteens, Joseph Gates aged 21 and Sarah Warne in her mid-thirties. Mr. Comyn calls them lodgers but it seems likely that Sarah keeps house for them.
Moses Kitcher's children, excepting son Janes who has absconded, are not far afield.
Also:-
Meeting at the 'bottom of Mill Lane we visit the miller,
Joseph KITCHER, 67 years old, and his wife Anne. Their children are grown up. Five are away, the two eldest sons in London and three daughters married and out of the parish.
 Even so, the house is full with five others at home, the youngest James, aged 19.
 Mr. Comyn reminds us there has been a mill at Flexford for centuries, long before 1150 when Hugh de Witteville gave the mill, his men, and all his land in Sway to Quarr Abbey.
 Joseph tells us that his family had rented the mill for well over a century, his great grandfather, Aaron Kitcher who died in 1716, had been miller as was Joseph's father before him.
End.
It would have been nice if this James was the ancestor but I think it more likely to be Moses & Betty's son.
Will use your info to find a copy of Comyn’s New Forest, sounds as if it may have some cross reference, perhaps the death of Betty, to nail this one.
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Re: Hampshire Hatches 1800's
« Reply #14 on: Monday 05 December 11 20:41 GMT (UK) »
The entry for Moses and Betty reads as follows:

living at Shirley Holmes
Elizabeth KITCHER nee READE widow of Jos (error for Moses)
Susannah London
James Battramsley
William Heathy Dilton
Elizabeth (DIANGLE) Holland
John born Apr 1797
Jane born 1799 Battramsley
Joseph born Nov 1801 Dible's Passford
plus Charles TUGBY (lodger)

The place names are where they were living in 1817
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
 All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Hampshire Hatches 1800's
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 12 March 17 23:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I am looking for a photograph of Hampshire Hatches if thats possible, Ringwood, and more information on Joseph Wiseman b1811 abt. Ringwood, Hampshire, England, death and father unknown. He is my
1st cousin 7 x removed. He lived in THE HATCHES Ringwood, owned 50 acres and employed farm labourers. His mother was Betty Peckham, and I think they lived there for at least 30 years.
Hope someone can help.
Thanks

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Re: Hampshire Hatches 1800's
« Reply #16 on: Monday 13 March 17 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Have you used the FreeREG site as there are many Kitcher's on there for Boldre etc. going back to the 1600's.
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