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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 15 December 11 13:57 GMT (UK) »
i dont know if some of the 1871 census is missing
which might explain why we cannot find Annie Susan, Alfred James and Elizabeth Selina
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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 15 December 11 14:41 GMT (UK) »
i dont know if some of the 1871 census is missing
which might explain why we cannot find Annie Susan, Alfred James and Elizabeth Selina


Toni I thought about that the other day but it doesn't look hopeful.

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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #11 on: Friday 16 December 11 10:21 GMT (UK) »
as Jaywit said to me, if they changed their names we are unlikey to find them. i think this must be the case as we have exhausted all other options.
and the same for Ellen Wheeler / Ingram we also have no death for her just the fact she went to NZ in the guise of a boy a day by the light of the moon before she could be arrested.

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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #12 on: Friday 16 December 11 11:06 GMT (UK) »
Morning Toni, in haste:

A while back you asked for my long - shot death registration for Annie Susan Urwin nee Culmer:

1866, Q3, Bethnal Green,  Annie Irwin, 47, 1c 289

Annie Susan was baptised at St Mary the Virgin, Dover, on 21 April 1833, so in 1866 she would have been ca 33 years old. The Annie Irwin whose death was registered in Bethnal Green was some 14 years too old.

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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #13 on: Friday 16 December 11 11:24 GMT (UK) »
3rd Qtr 1866 is possible for a death as we have her in May 1866, now without looking back did Richard Skidmore die in Bethnal Green?

 I'm thinking although may be way out, did Richard and Alfred do a wife swap? Was it in fact Sarah saying she was Annie Susan at the mass baptism?

Aceh would that death cert br worthwile getting? Although the age is way out it would be interesting to see exactly what it said.
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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 December 11 11:41 GMT (UK) »
perhaps we could look for a burial for her on the online registers first it may tell us something.

i did wonder if Sarah was posing as Annie Susan at the chirstening but where was Robert at this time what would he say?
and why wait a year until after he died to marry again after having banns read more or less straight away.

I thought that Sarah had a son with Richard, what happened to him?

is he Richard or Robert i have confused myself.

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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 December 11 11:56 GMT (UK) »
I'm losing the plot with the names as well ;D ;D ;D

I think Sarah's husband's death cert plus the Annie who died in Bethnal Green may just help. He could have been ill for a while, in the workhouse maybe?

Also the banns for the wedding that actually took place, you never know there might be a note on the banns.
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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #16 on: Friday 16 December 11 12:44 GMT (UK) »
Though there are known problems with the 1871 census according to FindMyPast I have looked on their site, and there seems to be nothing relevant to the London area. See FindMyPast help and advice knowledge base 1871 known issues to get the full detail.
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Re: Toni*’s OH Sc Hunt part 9
« Reply #17 on: Friday 16 December 11 12:58 GMT (UK) »


is he Richard or Robert i have confused myself.


it's Robert  :)
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