completed with thanks: st Johns Preston look up please - walmsley

[Nick Hill]

Hi Folks

can anyone do me a look up for St Johns in Preston please

I have the marriage details for the couple Richard townley Walmsley of Blackburn and Frances (Fanny) Jefferson of wigton Vol 8e page 531

Married Jun 1853 he was awidower and she a spinster

Just need to confirm Parents names and witnesses if possible

Many Thanks

Nick

[HOWMUCH]

Hello Nick
Some details of the marriage on www.familysearch.org but no witnesses . Marriage date 20 June 1853. Father of Richard:John WALMSLEY and father of Fanny:William JEFFERSON.
Eric

[Radcliff]

John William Walmsley
son of Richard Townley Walmsley ,and Frances,
father an engineer,
abode Christ Church Street,
St John Preston,
9th of October 1853

[Radcliff]

First marriage gives fathers name ,
ST Mary the Virgin Blackburn
2nd of December 1849
Richard Townley Walmsley,engineer bachelor of Blackburn aged 21,
Elizabeth Ann Ainsworth,aged 19,spinster of Blackburn
grooms father John Walmsley,warehouse man,
brides father,James Duncan Ainsworth,Tailor and draper,
witnesss to marriage ,John Pilkington and Thomas Livesey,


Richard Townley Walmsley,son of John and Ellen Walmsley
St Mary the Virgin Blackburn,26th of August 1827


Elizabeth Ann Walmsley aged 20 years,buried/funeral St Mary The Virgin Blackburn
5th of September 1851,abode Blackburn

[Nick Hill]

Many Thanks Guys

Yeah radcliffe he married three times in all i think.

he must have some kind of super powers as his wives only seem to need a few months from Marriage to birth of first child

Will look around for John and Ellen Walmsley (maybe she was a townley??)

I think frances father is William (from wigton) but still need evidence

happy christmas

Nick

[CaroleW]

Fanny is shown as 23 when she married so this must be her christening

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JSJY-V7V

I suspect she was a "replacement" for an earlier daughter who likely died in infancy

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NV5C-JX2

1841 for Westward Cumberland - all b Cumberland

William Jefferson 50 shoemaker
Mary   40
Joseph   15
John  15
Jane   12
Frances   10
Ann   8
Mary  7
Barbara  5
Martha  3
William  1
HO107 Piece 163/13  Folio 4 Page 3

[Nick Hill]

Thanks Carol

I agree she was a replacement for an earlier child

I cannot for the life of me find her in 1851.  I think she may have had an illegitimate child in 1850 in Wigton (Thomas jefferson) but she was not with him in 1851 (he was with his grandparents and and Uncle)

I will keep trying to find her in 1851

happy new year all

Nick

[CaroleW]

In 1851 she is in Blackburn and is indexed as Frances JEPHOSON b 1830 Wigton

HO107 Piece 2259 Folio 102 Page 7

[Radcliff]

Good find Carole,